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Anonymous wrote:Colgate vs Lehigh vs bucknell?

Colgate by far.

I say that as someone encouraging my kid to look at Lehigh and Bucknell because she likely won’t get into Colgate.

Colgate does not have much in common with either one of those schools. Bucknell is for rich kids who can't get into the top schools. Colgate is extremely academic and rigorous.

Colgate used to be for rich kids who couldn't get into Dartmouth. I was one and so where most of the people I knew when I went there. It's a great education and everyone I've known who has gone there enjoyed their time there, but we were very aware that we went to a safety school

Yep. Me too. I didn’t apply to any Ivy and while I always wondered what would have happened, I think it was unlikely I wouldn’t have gotten in.

Colgate kids were mostly kids who wanted Ivies and didn’t make it. I felt intellectually challenged at Colgate and I would say that’s the case for most. It’s a tough school with little grade inflation.

Of course there were also a few kids who got into Ivies but couldn’t afford it (schools gave less back then) and “settled” for Colgate.

Many kids go to Harvard for grad school from Colgate.

I tend to think my 3.8 UW GPA, 8 APs and 1340 SAT might not get me into Colgate these days. Back in the 90’s, kids with 1300 SATs often had a chance at Dartmouth, Cornell or Brown. I bet they are tossed aside pretty fast these days even at Colgate.

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Anonymous wrote:If you won’t qualify for financial aid, are you are looking for info on the likelihood of her getting an athletic scholarship to Colgate?

Yes, as to athletic. But also any information on "scholarships and grants" as some of the boards amorphously note. That's not "merit" but what we're finding is that merit is sometimes couched as other things. For example, if kids are admitted to honors colleges at some schools, or certain programs, they receive scholarships. Those are not included as "merit aid."

I'm also just wondering what the campus, school, experience is like. We hope to visit but it would be in the summer so I don't think we'd get the full feel.

You are overthinking (wishfully). Scholarships and grants = financial aid

If you don’t qualify and there is no merit, you won’t get any aid unless she gets an athletic scholarship

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Do you know this to be the case for Colgate or are you just guessing? Because this is not how it is everywhere.

I have a HS senior. We don’t qualify for financial aid. He got merit at schools that offer it, and at one school that had said they didn’t offer it (but changed their policy this year). But there are lots of schools (often the most competitive ones) that offer need based aid (“scholarships”) only.

Would you mind sharing the name of the school that now offers merit?

Not who you're responding too but maybe this PP is referring to Franklin and Marshall? They started offering merit again (albeit, not a ton--- though this is all anecdotal).

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Anonymous wrote:Colgate vs Lehigh vs bucknell?

Colgate by far.

I say that as someone encouraging my kid to look at Lehigh and Bucknell because she likely won’t get into Colgate.

Colgate does not have much in common with either one of those schools. Bucknell is for rich kids who can't get into the top schools. Colgate is extremely academic and rigorous.

Colgate used to be for rich kids who couldn't get into Dartmouth. I was one and so where most of the people I knew when I went there. It's a great education and everyone I've known who has gone there enjoyed their time there, but we were very aware that we went to a safety school