Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:48
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
College admission results have been more unpredictable i recent years for many reasons. It's not because of the high school someone goes to.
Actually going to TJ or highly ranked magnet or Big 3 prep is a DISadvantage. Colleges do a lot of economic balancing and geographic balancing. I would say it’s even more insidious than racial balancing.
You're delusional. Look at the big 3 college admissions and compare them to any random public school. Do you want to compare TJ results with all those super advantaged poor kids at MVHS?
The fact of life is that any bottom feeder at Big 3 is academically superior to the valedictorian of a “random” public HS.
Wow! No. That is absolutely not the case.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:47
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
College admission results have been more unpredictable i recent years for many reasons. It's not because of the high school someone goes to.
Actually going to TJ or highly ranked magnet or Big 3 prep is a DISadvantage. Colleges do a lot of economic balancing and geographic balancing. I would say it’s even more insidious than racial balancing.
You're delusional. Look at the big 3 college admissions and compare them to any random public school. Do you want to compare TJ results with all those super advantaged poor kids at MVHS?
The fact of life is that any bottom feeder at Big 3 is academically superior to the valedictorian of a “random” public HS.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:22
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
College admission results have been more unpredictable i recent years for many reasons. It's not because of the high school someone goes to.
Actually going to TJ or highly ranked magnet or Big 3 prep is a DISadvantage. Colleges do a lot of economic balancing and geographic balancing. I would say it’s even more insidious than racial balancing.
You chose to put your kid in a $45,000/year private high school & live in a wealthy suburb of a major metro area. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:20
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
College admission results have been more unpredictable i recent years for many reasons. It's not because of the high school someone goes to.
Actually going to TJ or highly ranked magnet or Big 3 prep is a DISadvantage. Colleges do a lot of economic balancing and geographic balancing. I would say it’s even more insidious than racial balancing.
You're delusional. Look at the big 3 college admissions and compare them to any random public school. Do you want to compare TJ results with all those super advantaged poor kids at MVHS?
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:15
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
College admission results have been more unpredictable i recent years for many reasons. It's not because of the high school someone goes to.
Actually going to TJ or highly ranked magnet or Big 3 prep is a DISadvantage. Colleges do a lot of economic balancing and geographic balancing. I would say it’s even more insidious than racial balancing.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:12
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
College admission results have been more unpredictable i recent years for many reasons. It's not because of the high school someone goes to.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:11
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
EXACTLY!!! Such freaking ignorant people. The new admissions policies did not impact the GRADUATING SENIORS. Get a grip. Think People. Just stop and think.
“much worse”??? Your kids are not even qualified to shine the shoes of TJ kids.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:08
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sty? lots of mit and caltech and totally miserable asian students there. they cannot wait to get to college, any college.
it's Stuy, since you're so familiar with it. You can look at their instagram page. The kids do great, which isn't a big shock, although money is often a big consideration. Every major college visits the school - some make pretty crazy announcements. UChicago said their director of admissions personally handles the Stuy file and reads all the essays.
It is true. UChicago has AOs asdigned by territory, and Stuy falls under their director of admissions.
This. Why did someone think that was controversial?
TJ teachers are quitting.
The fact that you think this is a TJ thing means you haven't been paying attention. Teachers are quitting everywhere.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:08
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll be really sorry I asked this, but what “problems” is TJ having?
As far as I can tell as an outsider, the "problem" is that TJ realized it's a public school and is taking steps to find and include smart Black and brown students who had previously been overlooked, perhaps because their test scores aren't as good or because their parents didn't know how to best position then from early childhood. DCUM parents think that is ruining the school because it is taking spots away from their brilliant children.
TJ is an anachronism. If you really cared so much about the education black and brown kids are getting you wouldn’t obsess so much about a handful going to TJ.
The best solution of TJ and the controversy surrounding TJ if for FCPS to withdraw from TJ. Either let the remaining counties rent the facilities and pay the faculty or turn it into an academy if they don't want it
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:06
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
EXACTLY!!! Such freaking ignorant people. The new admissions policies did not impact the GRADUATING SENIORS. Get a grip. Think People. Just stop and think.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:06
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll be really sorry I asked this, but what “problems” is TJ having?
As far as I can tell as an outsider, the "problem" is that TJ realized it's a public school and is taking steps to find and include smart Black and brown students who had previously been overlooked, perhaps because their test scores aren't as good or because their parents didn't know how to best position then from early childhood. DCUM parents think that is ruining the school because it is taking spots away from their brilliant children.
So the threshold for "smart" is dependent on the race? Meaning you have to group students by race and then pick the smartest from each rather than smartest of all in the same group?
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:06
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll be really sorry I asked this, but what “problems” is TJ having?
As far as I can tell as an outsider, the "problem" is that TJ realized it's a public school and is taking steps to find and include smart Black and brown students who had previously been overlooked, perhaps because their test scores aren't as good or because their parents didn't know how to best position then from early childhood. DCUM parents think that is ruining the school because it is taking spots away from their brilliant children.
TJ is an anachronism. If you really cared so much about the education black and brown kids are getting you wouldn’t obsess so much about a handful going to TJ.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:04
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what "problem" the OP was referring to, but I heard this year's college admission results are much worse comparing to prior years. These students were admitted to TJ before the "reform" FWIW.
Not much worse. It’s been about the same for several years. Don’t you know that almost all colleges do some racial balancing, and even more importantly, geographical balancing? If you are a kid from rural central Virginia public school, you can get into UVA much much easier than a kid from TJ. Actually attending TJ is a huge DISadvantage for college admissions.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:03
Subject: Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’ll be really sorry I asked this, but what “problems” is TJ having?
As far as I can tell as an outsider, the "problem" is that TJ realized it's a public school and is taking steps to find and include smart Black and brown students who had previously been overlooked, perhaps because their test scores aren't as good or because their parents didn't know how to best position then from early childhood. DCUM parents think that is ruining the school because it is taking spots away from their brilliant children.
FYI, TJ classes of 2025 (the first year they implemented admission “reform”) and beyond are less competent than previous years. Many more have to take remedial classes in math. TJ teachers are quitting. There’s a reason why TJ has been admitting 550 instead of 500 before the “reform” and allows for a longer waiting list. Just to be prepared for weeding out some of the admittees and allow those more competent ones (e.g. AAP from Carson or Longfellow) to get in. Stop using race as an excuse for the lack of preparedness.
This is hilarious to me because in the years before the test was eliminated, a large % of incoming students needed remedial English classes/lots of hand-holding in IBET (source: TJ humanities teachers). Maybe parents should just stop forcing their kids into accelerated academics when it's not actually warranted or wanted on the kids' part...
Anonymous
05/11/2023 10:03
Subject: Re:Is Peter Stuyvesant having the same problems as TJ?
I don’t think it’s fair for colleges to prioritize kids who go to magnet schools. Most kids in the US have zero control over what high school they go to. There are no “magnet” schools that a kid could go to if they happen to live in a rural area.