Anonymous
05/18/2023 15:20
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:After much back and forth, DS decided to turn down Walls for JR (today). A spot should open up on the WL.
You just blew through the May 1 Walls deadline because you are in bounds for JR?
Nice.
Students that took a seat at Walls but then decided to attend JR are legit. They are allowed to change their minds and enrollment. Nothing nefarious there.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 14:46
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The college admissions from SWW this year is amazing.
PP again and yes they are really impressive. Congrats to the senior class!
Compared to what?
Anonymous
05/18/2023 14:44
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:After much back and forth, DS decided to turn down Walls for JR (today). A spot should open up on the WL.
You just blew through the May 1 Walls deadline because you are in bounds for JR?
Nice.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 14:31
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:After much back and forth, DS decided to turn down Walls for JR (today). A spot should open up on the WL.
Reminder - they intentionally overenrolled the 9th grade class.
1 person turning down a spot does not = 1 person pulled off the waitlist
Anonymous
05/18/2023 14:28
Subject: Re:When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Has anyone gotten an offer yet? Or moved down xx spots on the waitlist?
Anonymous
05/18/2023 14:24
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
After much back and forth, DS decided to turn down Walls for JR (today). A spot should open up on the WL.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 17:14
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:The college admissions from SWW this year is amazing.
PP again and yes they are really impressive. Congrats to the senior class!
Anonymous
05/10/2023 16:36
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
The college admissions from SWW this year is amazing.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 13:11
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why Walls has become less desirable in recent years?
Less desirable is very questionable. Walls had roughly 1000+ applicants this year. People here think their small cohort is representative of the entire city. It is far from that. It's actually a very myopic view. Some think the elimination of the entrance exam equates to a less rigorous experience. No one knows the answer to that. Other schools have also become more desirable and that's a great thing. If you think SWW is a fit for your kid, go for it. I'd ignore the rest.
It is free and easy to apply to Walls, and you can always turn it down, so the gross number of applicants is meaningless.
The real issue is whether more and more people are turning down offered slots. As a PP pointed out, this seems to be the case since Walls scrapped its entrance exam.
Maybe it's an issue for you but not for most. SWW will have no problem filling the slots. There were 1900+ applicants this go round. Private schools continue to raise tuition by 3%-6% each year. There has to be a breaking point for a lot of people. If the lack of the test bothers you so much, look elsewhere. It's not complicated at all.
You missed the point.
Those of us considering Walls or with kids at Walls are concerned that the quality of the admittees has gone down.
Lots of Walls parents with older kids will tell you that the quality has gone down. Just ask. That is why a lot of people are looking elsewhere.
The real issue is why DCPS hasn't re-established the admissions exam like NYC, Chicago, SF, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Milwaukee.
And, ironically, the lack of an admissions test has done nothing to increase diversity; it has only made the process more random and arbitrary (a fact compounded by the ridiculous 10-minute student-led "interview" process).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-without-walls-admissions-test-diversity/2021/08/27/6959cec2-0293-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html
DCPS is an outlier here and only hurting the school system.
Nothing was missed. You are concerned about things you can't control and perception. You have no evidence of any decline. If you search this forum, there are tons of rants about SWW going back years. Same things over and over. The fight is for a true G&T program and 99% of the posters here won't go that route. They'll move, go private, or just complain every day. My SWW kid is being appropriately challenged and it's our job to make sure all needs are meet. As long as the learning environment is not disruptive, SWW will continue to be a viable option.
+1
NP and speaking as a parent who doesn’t consider our IB HS viable and can’t afford private, I don’t care if Walls’ yield goes down. It’s a solid school, college admissions is great, and they will always fill their slots.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 11:16
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why Walls has become less desirable in recent years?
Less desirable is very questionable. Walls had roughly 1000+ applicants this year. People here think their small cohort is representative of the entire city. It is far from that. It's actually a very myopic view. Some think the elimination of the entrance exam equates to a less rigorous experience. No one knows the answer to that. Other schools have also become more desirable and that's a great thing. If you think SWW is a fit for your kid, go for it. I'd ignore the rest.
It is free and easy to apply to Walls, and you can always turn it down, so the gross number of applicants is meaningless.
The real issue is whether more and more people are turning down offered slots. As a PP pointed out, this seems to be the case since Walls scrapped its entrance exam.
Maybe it's an issue for you but not for most. SWW will have no problem filling the slots. There were 1900+ applicants this go round. Private schools continue to raise tuition by 3%-6% each year. There has to be a breaking point for a lot of people. If the lack of the test bothers you so much, look elsewhere. It's not complicated at all.
You missed the point.
Those of us considering Walls or with kids at Walls are concerned that the quality of the admittees has gone down.
Lots of Walls parents with older kids will tell you that the quality has gone down. Just ask. That is why a lot of people are looking elsewhere.
The real issue is why DCPS hasn't re-established the admissions exam like NYC, Chicago, SF, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Milwaukee.
And, ironically, the lack of an admissions test has done nothing to increase diversity; it has only made the process more random and arbitrary (a fact compounded by the ridiculous 10-minute student-led "interview" process).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-without-walls-admissions-test-diversity/2021/08/27/6959cec2-0293-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html
DCPS is an outlier here and only hurting the school system.
Nothing was missed. You are concerned about things you can't control and perception. You have no evidence of any decline. If you search this forum, there are tons of rants about SWW going back years. Same things over and over. The fight is for a true G&T program and 99% of the posters here won't go that route. They'll move, go private, or just complain every day. My SWW kid is being appropriately challenged and it's our job to make sure all needs are meet. As long as the learning environment is not disruptive, SWW will continue to be a viable option.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 10:55
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why Walls has become less desirable in recent years?
Less desirable is very questionable. Walls had roughly 1000+ applicants this year. People here think their small cohort is representative of the entire city. It is far from that. It's actually a very myopic view. Some think the elimination of the entrance exam equates to a less rigorous experience. No one knows the answer to that. Other schools have also become more desirable and that's a great thing. If you think SWW is a fit for your kid, go for it. I'd ignore the rest.
It is free and easy to apply to Walls, and you can always turn it down, so the gross number of applicants is meaningless.
The real issue is whether more and more people are turning down offered slots. As a PP pointed out, this seems to be the case since Walls scrapped its entrance exam.
Maybe it's an issue for you but not for most. SWW will have no problem filling the slots. There were 1900+ applicants this go round. Private schools continue to raise tuition by 3%-6% each year. There has to be a breaking point for a lot of people. If the lack of the test bothers you so much, look elsewhere. It's not complicated at all.
You missed the point.
Those of us considering Walls or with kids at Walls are concerned that the quality of the admittees has gone down.
Lots of Walls parents with older kids will tell you that the quality has gone down. Just ask. That is why a lot of people are looking elsewhere.
The real issue is why DCPS hasn't re-established the admissions exam like NYC, Chicago, SF, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Milwaukee.
And, ironically, the lack of an admissions test has done nothing to increase diversity; it has only made the process more random and arbitrary (a fact compounded by the ridiculous 10-minute student-led "interview" process).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/school-without-walls-admissions-test-diversity/2021/08/27/6959cec2-0293-11ec-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html
DCPS is an outlier here and only hurting the school system.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 10:48
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why Walls has become less desirable in recent years?
Less desirable is very questionable. Walls had roughly 1000+ applicants this year. People here think their small cohort is representative of the entire city. It is far from that. It's actually a very myopic view. Some think the elimination of the entrance exam equates to a less rigorous experience. No one knows the answer to that. Other schools have also become more desirable and that's a great thing. If you think SWW is a fit for your kid, go for it. I'd ignore the rest.
It is free and easy to apply to Walls, and you can always turn it down, so the gross number of applicants is meaningless.
The real issue is whether more and more people are turning down offered slots. As a PP pointed out, this seems to be the case since Walls scrapped its entrance exam.
More and more people aren’t turning down slots. They’ve made almost the exact same number of offers the last three years.
Someone pointed out above that a much higher percentage of kids accepted slots before 2020 than after. So, that would suggest a general trend of more kids turning out slots and that this has become more pronounced after Walls ended the admissions exam.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 10:42
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why Walls has become less desirable in recent years?
Less desirable is very questionable. Walls had roughly 1000+ applicants this year. People here think their small cohort is representative of the entire city. It is far from that. It's actually a very myopic view. Some think the elimination of the entrance exam equates to a less rigorous experience. No one knows the answer to that. Other schools have also become more desirable and that's a great thing. If you think SWW is a fit for your kid, go for it. I'd ignore the rest.
It is free and easy to apply to Walls, and you can always turn it down, so the gross number of applicants is meaningless.
The real issue is whether more and more people are turning down offered slots. As a PP pointed out, this seems to be the case since Walls scrapped its entrance exam.
Maybe it's an issue for you but not for most. SWW will have no problem filling the slots. There were 1900+ applicants this go round. Private schools continue to raise tuition by 3%-6% each year. There has to be a breaking point for a lot of people. If the lack of the test bothers you so much, look elsewhere. It's not complicated at all.
Anonymous
05/10/2023 07:22
Subject: When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why Walls has become less desirable in recent years?
Less desirable is very questionable. Walls had roughly 1000+ applicants this year. People here think their small cohort is representative of the entire city. It is far from that. It's actually a very myopic view. Some think the elimination of the entrance exam equates to a less rigorous experience. No one knows the answer to that. Other schools have also become more desirable and that's a great thing. If you think SWW is a fit for your kid, go for it. I'd ignore the rest.
It is free and easy to apply to Walls, and you can always turn it down, so the gross number of applicants is meaningless.
The real issue is whether more and more people are turning down offered slots. As a PP pointed out, this seems to be the case since Walls scrapped its entrance exam.
More and more people aren’t turning down slots. They’ve made almost the exact same number of offers the last three years.
Anonymous
05/09/2023 22:21
Subject: Re:When will Walls go to it’s Waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2020 (exam):
Matches: 145
Waitlist offers: 91
Total offers: 236
Count day enrollment: 156
Yield: 66%
2021 (no exam):
Matches: 143
Waitlist offers: 95
Total offers: 238
Count day enrollment: 157
Yield: 66%
2022 (no exam):
Matches: 170
Waitlist offers: 69
Total offers: 239
Count day enrollment: 158
Yield: 66%
(Sources: MySchool data and the OSSE audit.)
Not exactly. 2020 had a little thing called the Covid-19 pandemic, which obviously had a huge impact on DC schools and admissions. In fact, in 2020 DC administered the Walls admissions test at a school in Ward 8 rather than Walls itself, which DC had never done before. Both these circumstances undoubtedly had an impact on who applied. So, I hardly think that 2020 is a great place for you to start.
But let’s run with your analysis and take it back a few years before 2020:
2017 (exam)
Matches: 140
Waitlist offers: 60
Total offers: 200
Count day enrollment: 155
Yield: 78%
2018 (exam):
Matches: 140
Waitlist offers: 85
Total offers: 225
Count day enrollment: 152
Yield: 68%
2019 (exam):
Matches: 140
Waitlist offers: 70
Total offers: 210
Count day enrollment: 160
Yield: 76%
(Sources: MySchool data and the OSSE audit.)
You calculated the yield for 2020, 2021, and 2022 at 66% for each year.
Thus, it does look like you see a decrease in the Walls yield from before the exam to after.
NP and if you are going to be all smug in your response at least get all of your facts straight. In 2019-2020 Walls offered the entrance exam in two locations- one at Savoy which you mention and one at GW. Students could choose which location. The school administered just as many tests as usual. This had nothing to do with yield or admissions or anything that year.