Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 19:19     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Brown all day long. Easy call.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:41     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.


US News has an undergrad engineering ranking too FYI, and Duke is 16th there while Brown is much lower. Being 16th with what seems like a pretty small department is quite impressive
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:36     Subject: Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Thanks for all the responses and shared experiences from both schools! DD likes the engineering curriculums at both, as they allow flexibility to explore outside of engineering which not all schools offer. The undergraduate research opportunities looks good at both too. We know Duke is more prestigious but that’s not what we’re trying to decide from - we’re going for fit and undergraduate opportunities. Hopefully the visit clears the fit side up, as I agree both schools have quite different environments! Based on her initial thinking she’s leaning Duke but won’t finalize until her trip (we booked for this Sunday)
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:33     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.


Do you understand how engineering schools work? The quality of the graduate school reflects the quality of the undergraduate school within the same university.


If that were true, and personally I believe it is, schools like Berkeley and Michigan are woefully under ranked at USNWR. Then again in world wide rankings, both are properly ranked.


The overall ranking takes into consideration of all programs within the university. Berkeley and Michigan might be stronger than many universities in engineering, but weaker in other areas. OP's child is interested in engineering, and that's the focus here.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:28     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.


Do you understand how engineering schools work? The quality of the graduate school reflects the quality of the undergraduate school within the same university.


If that were true, and personally I believe it is, schools like Berkeley and Michigan are woefully under ranked at USNWR. Then again in world wide rankings, both are properly ranked.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:23     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.


Do you understand how engineering schools work? The quality of the graduate school reflects the quality of the undergraduate school within the same university.


Nice try.

Undergrad rankings/= graduate rankings. You messed up.

On top of which usn rankings are all subjective bullshit. You think Duke engineering is 10% better based on that you go ahead.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:23     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.


Do you understand how engineering schools work? The quality of the graduate school reflects the quality of the undergraduate school within the same university.


Thanks for explaining that. It still doesn’t explain how Duke is a top ten school with so few departments ranked anywhere near the top ten.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:20     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.


Do you understand how engineering schools work? The quality of the graduate school reflects the quality of the undergraduate school within the same university.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:16     Subject: Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:Brown and Duke have very different cultures. Is your kid more preppy (Duke) or more crunchy/granola(Brown)? Dies your kid like watching sports and want a school with a lot of spirit in the traditional sense of the word (Duke)? Does your kid get really stressed about school and therefore would benefit from Brown's more lax grading policy?

Both are great schools but they are super different.


Brown does not have a “more lax grading policy”, Wtf that is. You made that up.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:14     Subject: Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Brown and Duke have very different cultures. Is your kid more preppy (Duke) or more crunchy/granola(Brown)? Dies your kid like watching sports and want a school with a lot of spirit in the traditional sense of the word (Duke)? Does your kid get really stressed about school and therefore would benefit from Brown's more lax grading policy?

Both are great schools but they are super different.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 18:14     Subject: Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

In Niche, Duke is 12 and Brown 23 in best engineering schools
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 17:53     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.


Hey folks! Here's the guy who thinks USN has some kind of special formula! And guess what? Those are the rankings for the graduate schools so they are largely irrelevant, even if it is a 10% delta between the 400 schools that offer engineering! And both are ABET certified!

Great content here on DCUM! Really helpful to the OPs.


/op the answer is where the best fit is assuming both have similar cost.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 17:49     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Duke. Can't imagine studying engineering with open curriculum.


+1, my friend knows someone whose daughter goes to Brown. At the time of admit, she was all into Engineering but she ended up studying English and African studies at Brown. I am not sure if she would have paid the full price for Brown if she knew her daughter won't get a STEM degree, open curriculum is not ALL good


Right because it is only at open curriculum schools that students drop out of engineering.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/5-reasons-why-engineering-students-drop-out-john-horbacewicz/

"Around 60% of students that study engineering will either drop-out or change majors and 40% of those students will do so in their first year."

So sick of the stupid in here.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 16:57     Subject: Re:Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

Anonymous wrote:Neither school known for engineering. Decide on other factors.


Not true. Brown is not know for engineering. Duke is at #22 and Brown at #63 for engineering according to usnews.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 16:47     Subject: Duke or Brown? Engineering and history.

I'm a Duke alum so totally biased. It's an amazing experience and I recommend it. Be warned though- the Engineering program is very rigorous and challenging. That may be great for your DD. It's also a really fun place to go to school.