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Anonymous wrote:As the title says....

Because it's a garbage curriculum.

Actually Eureka math is highly regarded all across the country so...you're probably just one of the angry parents who hates it because it wasn't how you learned.

DP. I like the curriculum for students on or above grade level. For struggling students, it is not an effective program for catching kids up and getting them to grade level. It moves way too fast with not enough time for practice. For the school I work at where 85% of students score below the 20th percentile on MAP, it is a disaster. So it is not the curriculum that I dislike, but it has to match the kids which it does not in a lot of county schools. MAP scores are actually decreasing due to having less time with the basics.

I don't know much about Illustrative Math but I hope it is a better fit for the kids I am sending to middle school next year!

Are you just talking about middle school? ES math seems to move so slow already, I don’t know how you could slow it down any further. It’s already so repetitive for weeks/months on end.

That’s your opinion and possibly true for your child. For my students, it’s way too rigorous. There’s not enough time for the basics. When the great majority of 5th graders don’t conceptually understand 8/2, simplifying fractions, division, decimal division etc… are way above their head. Then throw in denominators/ divisors of 83, 54, 79 and the like and watch the tears flow.

Perhaps this means MCPS should be doing tracking? Clearly the pacing is too slow for some but too fast for others. It seems like the pacing is in part designed to enable students to take advanced classes in high school, but not everyone is going to be doing that.

MCPS does offer leveled math starting in 4th grade. It's not really tracking though because kids can move in and out of the tracks. We know people who were in math 4 last year who are in 5/6 this year, and kids who were in 4/5 last year who are in math 5 this year, as just two examples.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the title says....

Because it's a garbage curriculum.

Actually Eureka math is highly regarded all across the country so...you're probably just one of the angry parents who hates it because it wasn't how you learned.

DP. I like the curriculum for students on or above grade level. For struggling students, it is not an effective program for catching kids up and getting them to grade level. It moves way too fast with not enough time for practice. For the school I work at where 85% of students score below the 20th percentile on MAP, it is a disaster. So it is not the curriculum that I dislike, but it has to match the kids which it does not in a lot of county schools. MAP scores are actually decreasing due to having less time with the basics.

I don't know much about Illustrative Math but I hope it is a better fit for the kids I am sending to middle school next year!

Are you just talking about middle school? ES math seems to move so slow already, I don’t know how you could slow it down any further. It’s already so repetitive for weeks/months on end.

That’s your opinion and possibly true for your child. For my students, it’s way too rigorous. There’s not enough time for the basics. When the great majority of 5th graders don’t conceptually understand 8/2, simplifying fractions, division, decimal division etc… are way above their head.

Common Core Grade Level standard for Grade 3 includes:

> Represent and solve problems involving multiplication and division.

Common Core Grade Level standard for Grade 5 includes:

> Perform operations with multi-digit whole numbers and with
decimals to hundredths.
> Use equivalent fractions as a strategy to add and subtract fractions.
>Apply and extend previous understandings of multiplication and
division to multiply and divide fractions.

https://learning.ccsso.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Math_Standards1.pdf


Students in 5th grade who don't understand "8/2" need intensive support (extra review / tutoring) to catch up, or some sort of alternate accommodation. If it's the "great majority of 5th graders", there has been a systemic failure (maybe Covid / Virtual "Learning".

That's not a problem with the curriculum, that's students who are not ready to learn, due so personal, family, or social reasons.

Just as we have compacted Math 5/6 for students who go faster, some students might need extended math spread out over more years, if their "ready to learn" blockers cannot be resolved.

Anonymous wrote: Then throw in denominators/ divisors of 83, 54, 79 and the like and watch the tears flow.

This is not in the 5th grade curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:As the title says....

Because it's a garbage curriculum.

Actually Eureka math is highly regarded all across the country so...you're probably just one of the angry parents who hates it because it wasn't how you learned.

DP. I like the curriculum for students on or above grade level. For struggling students, it is not an effective program for catching kids up and getting them to grade level. It moves way too fast with not enough time for practice. For the school I work at where 85% of students score below the 20th percentile on MAP, it is a disaster. So it is not the curriculum that I dislike, but it has to match the kids which it does not in a lot of county schools. MAP scores are actually decreasing due to having less time with the basics.

I don't know much about Illustrative Math but I hope it is a better fit for the kids I am sending to middle school next year!

Are you just talking about middle school? ES math seems to move so slow already, I don’t know how you could slow it down any further. It’s already so repetitive for weeks/months on end.

That’s your opinion and possibly true for your child. For my students, it’s way too rigorous. There’s not enough time for the basics. When the great majority of 5th graders don’t conceptually understand 8/2, simplifying fractions, division, decimal division etc… are way above their head. Then throw in denominators/ divisors of 83, 54, 79 and the like and watch the tears flow.

Perhaps this means MCPS should be doing tracking? Clearly the pacing is too slow for some but too fast for others. It seems like the pacing is in part designed to enable students to take advanced classes in high school, but not everyone is going to be doing that.