Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 18:01     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:I saw this and it is absolutely horrific. It upsets me even more knowing that when something similar happened here in the DC area - great kid killed by drunk driver - there were defenders of the drunk driver here in DCUM. Disgusting.

Drunk drivers need to be put away for a long time. No apologies, especially in 2023 when there are Ubers/Lyfts, etc. at the touch of a screen.


ExExcuses in order:

It was a mistake. The driver shouldn't spend his life in jail for a simple mistake.
There was no intent. He couldn't understand the consequences of exceeding the speed limit slightly.
Why are they allowing people to drive golf carts on the road? Roads are dangerous and golf carts and pedestrians should stay away from them.


I’m hoping, assuming, this response is sarcastic. Even as a person who knows tbe driver intimately I can say I hope she goes away for life.

She had multiple speeding violations prior and a very privileged life that she never learned from. I hope she gets the max.


I would agree but do have to wonder about allowing a golf cart on the road.


So, if I see a golf cart on the road, am I allowed to ram it?


PP here. Did I say that?! Nope! I simply don't think golf carts on a main road are safe. Do I think she's accountable for this accident and the bride's death? Absolutely.


Was the golf cart on a main road? Hint, the speed limit was 25 mph.


Is East Ashley Avenue not a main road?


Looks like a residential neighborhood. What is a "main" road?


That's what I meant by a main road. It's not just a narrow road on a golf course.


Again, this kind of vehicle that has headlights and can go over 35 mph are allowed on “main roads”.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 18:00     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:He likely saw it coming. They bride and groom were riding facing the oncoming car.

The criminal is on suicide watch.


how do you know this?


From the court documents.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 17:57     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:I saw this and it is absolutely horrific. It upsets me even more knowing that when something similar happened here in the DC area - great kid killed by drunk driver - there were defenders of the drunk driver here in DCUM. Disgusting.

Drunk drivers need to be put away for a long time. No apologies, especially in 2023 when there are Ubers/Lyfts, etc. at the touch of a screen.


ExExcuses in order:

It was a mistake. The driver shouldn't spend his life in jail for a simple mistake.
There was no intent. He couldn't understand the consequences of exceeding the speed limit slightly.
Why are they allowing people to drive golf carts on the road? Roads are dangerous and golf carts and pedestrians should stay away from them.


I’m hoping, assuming, this response is sarcastic. Even as a person who knows tbe driver intimately I can say I hope she goes away for life.

She had multiple speeding violations prior and a very privileged life that she never learned from. I hope she gets the max.


I would agree but do have to wonder about allowing a golf cart on the road.


So, if I see a golf cart on the road, am I allowed to ram it?


PP here. Did I say that?! Nope! I simply don't think golf carts on a main road are safe. Do I think she's accountable for this accident and the bride's death? Absolutely.


Was the golf cart on a main road? Hint, the speed limit was 25 mph.


Is East Ashley Avenue not a main road?


Looks like a residential neighborhood. What is a "main" road?


That's what I meant by a main road. It's not just a narrow road on a golf course.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:58     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
I think I understand straight up murder as a crime - like I sometimes get why someone would kill someone. But I simply cannot understand drunk driving. It's just so preventable and senseless and needlessly selfish.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:58     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
Automatic breathelizers for cars. Serious jail time for first DUI offence. It needs to be socially unavailable to drive here drunk, like it is in many other countries.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:57     Subject: Re:Bride killed hours after ceremony
Anonymous wrote:CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A Charlotte bride was killed when the golf cart she and her new husband were riding was hit by a suspected drunk driver in Folly Beach, South Carolina, police said. Folly Beach police responded to a crash involving a golf cart around 10 p.m. on Friday, April 28, on Ashley Avenue, WYFF-TV reported. Investigators said one person in the golf cart died and three others were hurt.

From the Folly Beach Golf Cart rules:
-Golf carts can be driven across, but not on, Center Street or Folly Road.
-The driver of a golf cart must be at least 16 years old and be in possession of a driver’s license, the SCDMV registration certificate and proof of liability insurance.
-Golf carts may not be operated at night.
-Golf carts cannot be driven in the rain or at any other time when visibility is limited.
-All drivers of golf carts are required to read the Folly Beach laws related to golf carts. The golf cart laws can be found in Chapter 73 of the city of Folly Beach Ordinances.
https://cityoffollybeach.com/golf-cart#:~:text=Golf%20carts%20can%20be%20driven,and%20proof%20of%20liability%20insurance.

I live on a neighboring island with similar golf cart laws and this is why we have them. Ideally there wouldn’t be drunk drivers, but even sober drivers have a hard time seeing golf carts at night with our limited street lights and golf cart’s limited safety markers.


From the article: Andrew Gilreath, director of the Folly Beach Public Safety Department, said the golf cart — a six-person, low-speed model with a maximum speed of 25 mph — was legal to drive at night.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:50     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:He likely saw it coming. They bride and groom were riding facing the oncoming car.

The criminal is on suicide watch.


how do you know this?


You don’t know this
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:47     Subject: Re:Bride killed hours after ceremony
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A Charlotte bride was killed when the golf cart she and her new husband were riding was hit by a suspected drunk driver in Folly Beach, South Carolina, police said. Folly Beach police responded to a crash involving a golf cart around 10 p.m. on Friday, April 28, on Ashley Avenue, WYFF-TV reported. Investigators said one person in the golf cart died and three others were hurt.

From the Folly Beach Golf Cart rules:
-Golf carts can be driven across, but not on, Center Street or Folly Road.
-The driver of a golf cart must be at least 16 years old and be in possession of a driver’s license, the SCDMV registration certificate and proof of liability insurance.
-Golf carts may not be operated at night.
-Golf carts cannot be driven in the rain or at any other time when visibility is limited.
-All drivers of golf carts are required to read the Folly Beach laws related to golf carts. The golf cart laws can be found in Chapter 73 of the city of Folly Beach Ordinances.
https://cityoffollybeach.com/golf-cart#:~:text=Golf%20carts%20can%20be%20driven,and%20proof%20of%20liability%20insurance.

I live on a neighboring island with similar golf cart laws and this is why we have them. Ideally there wouldn’t be drunk drivers, but even sober drivers have a hard time seeing golf carts at night with our limited street lights and golf cart’s limited safety markers.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:34     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
Anonymous wrote:He likely saw it coming. They bride and groom were riding facing the oncoming car.

The criminal is on suicide watch.


how do you know this?
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:28     Subject: Re:Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:The accident was 100% the drunk driver’s fault, and she’d better serve a long prison sentence…but having said that, I don’t think it’s safe to be on the road in a golf cart after dark. I wish they’d been in an automobile. The accident would still have happened, but they might have sustained less serious injuries. This is heartbreaking.


+1. Maybe they were only going a short way on the road or something? Just a horrific tragedy.


This is a South Carolina thing - a lot of the nicer neighborhoods have golf carts for getting to/from other houses, to the clubhouse, pool, etc...VERY common down there, both in beach communities and inland in wealthier communities.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:28     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:I saw this and it is absolutely horrific. It upsets me even more knowing that when something similar happened here in the DC area - great kid killed by drunk driver - there were defenders of the drunk driver here in DCUM. Disgusting.

Drunk drivers need to be put away for a long time. No apologies, especially in 2023 when there are Ubers/Lyfts, etc. at the touch of a screen.


ExExcuses in order:

It was a mistake. The driver shouldn't spend his life in jail for a simple mistake.
There was no intent. He couldn't understand the consequences of exceeding the speed limit slightly.
Why are they allowing people to drive golf carts on the road? Roads are dangerous and golf carts and pedestrians should stay away from them.


I’m hoping, assuming, this response is sarcastic. Even as a person who knows tbe driver intimately I can say I hope she goes away for life.

She had multiple speeding violations prior and a very privileged life that she never learned from. I hope she gets the max.


I would agree but do have to wonder about allowing a golf cart on the road.


So, if I see a golf cart on the road, am I allowed to ram it?


PP here. Did I say that?! Nope! I simply don't think golf carts on a main road are safe. Do I think she's accountable for this accident and the bride's death? Absolutely.


Was the golf cart on a main road? Hint, the speed limit was 25 mph.


Is East Ashley Avenue not a main road?


Looks like a residential neighborhood. What is a "main" road?
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:23     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
Anonymous wrote:They were in an LSV which is slightly different than a golf cart. A golf cart goes 15 mph. An LSV can go 25 mph or more, has headlights, turn signals, mirrors, seat belts.


“There are two main things that distinguish a golf cart from a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle (NEV), sometimes referred to as a Low-Speed Vehicle or LSV:
- The maximum speed of a golf cart is 15mph.
- An NEV / LSV must go 25mph or more.
- An NEV has headlights, turn signals, mirrors, seat belts, and even a VIN number.
- An NEV / LSV can be operated on streets with a posted speed limit of 35mph or less.”

See https://www.tmhnc.com/blog/buying-a-street-legal-golf-cart-nev-lsv#:~:text=There%20are%20two%20main%20things,and%20even%20a%20VIN%20number
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:22     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
He likely saw it coming. They bride and groom were riding facing the oncoming car.

The criminal is on suicide watch.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:20     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
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Anonymous wrote:OP - how do you know the driver? What are they like?

The driver needs to pay the consequences. That poor bride is dead and her husband is in serious question. Wasn't a child also injured?


So as to keep anonymity, I’m not going to say how I know her but she’s had a very privileged life. Yes, a child and another adult and it’s not clear if the husband is going to live.

Does he know about his wife? I can’t imagine the horror.


Agree. He may need more mental therapy than physical. Awful. Would not want to be one to break the news to him. I’d have to re-read the article to be more certain — did he have a severe brain injury from the incident?
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 16:16     Subject: Bride killed hours after ceremony
They were in an LSV which is slightly different than a golf cart. A golf cart goes 15 mph. An LSV can go 25 mph or more, has headlights, turn signals, mirrors, seat belts.