Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:56     Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.


This is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:56     Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.


“Hard stop?” What are you, 12?

Our best and brightest should be leaders and sometimes that means leading the fight against evil. Sorry that is news to you.


“Evil” is a matter of perpective. Full stop.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:51     Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.


“Hard stop?” What are you, 12?

Our best and brightest should be leaders and sometimes that means leading the fight against evil. Sorry that is news to you.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:48     Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:38     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Cadets are not required to join active military. Those that do go in with a high rank. Some go into reserves. Some choose to go into med school.

Their education is free and they are guaranteed employment with a minimum of $75k after graduation.

They have so much discipline that any company would hire them.

A former manager attended West Point, he was active military for a few years; entered the reserves, and has a Harvard MBA. He’s fit. Super smart and at 45 makes about $700k.

What? I'm almost completely sure that you do -- definitely at West Point. I think with the USMMA, there may be some non-military options if you serve in a related job.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:36     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most kids don’t want to give up 5 years of their lives post grad. It is a big sacrifice and a setback in career progression. I know one Navy guy who regrets it.


That is why very few go. It is a call to serve. The five years actually provide experiences and leadership opportunities extremely rare in the world today. "Setback in career progression"? Please. I would love to hear you elaborate.

West Point, and all the service academies, are amazing opportunities that should be celebrated.


Look, I have nothing but respect for those who attend our service academies but I’m just sharing what he shared with me. By the time he left the navy he was like 27 and essentially a recent college grad whereas his friends were making great headway into their careers. It is a sacrifice to spend five years on a submarine. I think he feels it was a net negative in terms of his career. He’s proud of his service but wasn’t really recommending the path. I’m sure there are others who leveraged the network and the respect more effectively


You are being silly. No one. And I mean no one graduates from USNA, spends 5 years on a submarine and comes out feeling like they are recent college grads. They are trained and way ahead of their peers career wise especially if they were on a sub.

One thing to note is that the post-grad service is officer / leadership service where you manage / are in charge of groups others, at least at WP. So, if you transition out of the military, you have that on your resume. The grads are sought after for these reasons.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:35     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Cadets are not required to join active military. Those that do go in with a high rank. Some go into reserves. Some choose to go into med school.

Their education is free and they are guaranteed employment with a minimum of $75k after graduation.

They have so much discipline that any company would hire them.

A former manager attended West Point, he was active military for a few years; entered the reserves, and has a Harvard MBA. He’s fit. Super smart and at 45 makes about $700k.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:33     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most kids don’t want to give up 5 years of their lives post grad. It is a big sacrifice and a setback in career progression. I know one Navy guy who regrets it.


That is why very few go. It is a call to serve. The five years actually provide experiences and leadership opportunities extremely rare in the world today. "Setback in career progression"? Please. I would love to hear you elaborate.

West Point, and all the service academies, are amazing opportunities that should be celebrated.


Look, I have nothing but respect for those who attend our service academies but I’m just sharing what he shared with me. By the time he left the navy he was like 27 and essentially a recent college grad whereas his friends were making great headway into their careers. It is a sacrifice to spend five years on a submarine. I think he feels it was a net negative in terms of his career. He’s proud of his service but wasn’t really recommending the path. I’m sure there are others who leveraged the network and the respect more effectively


You are being silly. No one. And I mean no one graduates from USNA, spends 5 years on a submarine and comes out feeling like they are recent college grads. They are trained and way ahead of their peers career wise especially if they were on a sub.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:25     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.


He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.


We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.


This. If you ever needed proof that DCUM was being trolled by paid propagandists then you have right here. Someone is going out of their way to discourage our brightest young men and women from serving in the military. And the very specific comment about submariners was super telling.

Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:22     Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The young men I've known who went to West Point were all very smart and athletic who had a lot of college choices. But it was also clear to me that it was the parents (mainly dads) pushing the kids into the academy.


Kids who are pushed by their parents don't last. Most want to be there.


+100

It is very hard to get into the military academies. Especially West Point. Parents pushing is not enough to do it.
Think of how many kids you know that we’re accepted, let alone accepted and turned it down.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:10     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:I just found out that arguably the smartest senior I know (very top student at a top 5 private (per Niche) school in the US) is attending West Point over other options. This kid is a math whiz---many years beyond calculus---and also has high EQ. Just total OUTSTANDING total package kind of kid.
Why choose West Point?


As others have said:
-- No tuition cost
-- Guaranteed job after graduation
-- Want to be military officer
-- Network / post-military job prospects

Why not to choose West Point:
-- Don't want to be in the military
-- Don't like the physical requirements for students
-- Don't like the daily structure and obligations
-- Want more of a typical college experience w/ more flexibility/freedom
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 17:14     Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
OP, I asked the same question when I found 3 graduates from my DD's all-girls school class were heading to the academies (2 USMA; 1 USNA). They had so many options and chose what to someone like me seemed like a very tough road. I ran into the group recently and they all seemed to like the experience though their stories resemble nothing like the typical college experience.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 17:06     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most kids don’t want to give up 5 years of their lives post grad. It is a big sacrifice and a setback in career progression. I know one Navy guy who regrets it.


That is why very few go. It is a call to serve. The five years actually provide experiences and leadership opportunities extremely rare in the world today. "Setback in career progression"? Please. I would love to hear you elaborate.

West Point, and all the service academies, are amazing opportunities that should be celebrated.


Look, I have nothing but respect for those who attend our service academies but I’m just sharing what he shared with me. By the time he left the navy he was like 27 and essentially a recent college grad whereas his friends were making great headway into their careers. It is a sacrifice to spend five years on a submarine. I think he feels it was a net negative in terms of his career. He’s proud of his service but wasn’t really recommending the path. I’m sure there are others who leveraged the network and the respect more effectively
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 17:06     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just found out that arguably the smartest senior I know (very top student at a top 5 private (per Niche) school in the US) is attending West Point over other options. This kid is a math whiz---many years beyond calculus---and also has high EQ. Just total OUTSTANDING total package kind of kid.
Why choose West Point?



The question is why would you ask this question?


Legitimate question. Going in you know that West Point will train you to kill other human beings. Why would one do that is the question.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 17:02     Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.


He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.


We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.