Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 12:53     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Perceptions of safety are relative. Just came back from Amsterdam where everyone bikes. Saw tons of parents with babies on bikes, sometimes two per. Never saw a single helmet.


Biking in Amsterdam is statistically way safer than in the US. They’ve structured their entire infrastructure around keeping cyclists and pedestrians safe, cars go slower, are not permitted in many places, and are often separated from bike lanes/sidewalks by medians and other barriers.

Cyclists in Amsterdam do not “perceive” themselves as being safer on bikes. They actually are.


First, their bike lanes are not separated from pedestrian lanes by hard barriers. Second, your argument doesn’t explain why kids are made to wear bike helmets in places with no cars.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 11:49     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:Perceptions of safety are relative. Just came back from Amsterdam where everyone bikes. Saw tons of parents with babies on bikes, sometimes two per. Never saw a single helmet.


Biking in Amsterdam is statistically way safer than in the US. They’ve structured their entire infrastructure around keeping cyclists and pedestrians safe, cars go slower, are not permitted in many places, and are often separated from bike lanes/sidewalks by medians and other barriers.

Cyclists in Amsterdam do not “perceive” themselves as being safer on bikes. They actually are.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 11:21     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those with family in ER who ban trampolines on account on seeing trampoline-related injuries, do you think that their sample is skewed? I mean if I was an STD doctor and saw nothing but syphilis all day, I too would be tempted to ban my kids from having sex.


Nice try, but nope. They see a disproportionate amount of trampoline injuries compared to other recreational activities (e.g. swimming, ice skating, soccer, even football).


Yes, this.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 09:20     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Trampolines in a gymnastics class that are inground/have foam pits are one thing, but I think you are totally justified in being helicopter-y in the situation you describe. Helicopter away on this one with zero guilt. Unsupervised above ground trampolines are a legit safety concern IMO.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 09:05     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Look for a trampoline only class in gymnastics
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 00:22     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:Perceptions of safety are relative. Just came back from Amsterdam where everyone bikes. Saw tons of parents with babies on bikes, sometimes two per. Never saw a single helmet.


They have the bikes separated from the cars and we don’t that’s why.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2023 23:01     Subject: Re:Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
No trampolines. Take him to a pool with high dives and let him do his thing over water.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2023 07:17     Subject: Re:Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:I will never understand people who let emotions drive decisions like this: "my friend/neighbor/relative did X and got injured, so I will never let my kids do X."

We don't have a trampoline, but I would have no problem letting my kids use one if they wanted to do so. People here just seem to be bad at math and incredibly risk averse.


Going based on one person might be hard to understand but there is a lot of statistical evidence that trampolines, including OP’s, are dangerous. It’s not bad at math to recognize that.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2023 07:03     Subject: Re:Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
I will never understand people who let emotions drive decisions like this: "my friend/neighbor/relative did X and got injured, so I will never let my kids do X."

We don't have a trampoline, but I would have no problem letting my kids use one if they wanted to do so. People here just seem to be bad at math and incredibly risk averse.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 23:18     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Perceptions of safety are relative. Just came back from Amsterdam where everyone bikes. Saw tons of parents with babies on bikes, sometimes two per. Never saw a single helmet.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 22:05     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:I am a very hands off parent but I have a no trampoline rule. Ask er dr or surgeon friends. None of mine let their kids near them either and this goes for in ground, spring free, etc. It’s not the broken bones I am afraid of, it’s the neck, spine and head injuries

I remember an ER doctor saying the two things he would never allow his children to do, ever, were: standing in the shopping cart and riding a motorcycle. He said you would not believe the number of kids who drop head first out of shopping carts.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 21:42     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:For those with family in ER who ban trampolines on account on seeing trampoline-related injuries, do you think that their sample is skewed? I mean if I was an STD doctor and saw nothing but syphilis all day, I too would be tempted to ban my kids from having sex.


Nice try, but nope. They see a disproportionate amount of trampoline injuries compared to other recreational activities (e.g. swimming, ice skating, soccer, even football).

Also, sweetie, it's called a gynecologist and/or urologist, not an "STD Doctor".
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:53     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:No trampolines. My neighbor's adult son is now paralyzed from going to a trampoline park with his kids.


This is my nightmare. I once read an account of a man who became paralyzed in a tubing accident. It's like I can't "unsee" it.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:47     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those with family in ER who ban trampolines on account on seeing trampoline-related injuries, do you think that their sample is skewed? I mean if I was an STD doctor and saw nothing but syphilis all day, I too would be tempted to ban my kids from having sex.


Huh? ER docs don’t specialize in trampoline injuries.


My mom saw some horrible sledding accidents and…we have a lot of rules about where we can sled. I also was a kid who did a million flips on the trampoline growing up but now only let my kids use trampolines when I know they will be supervised and at least have a chance of being safe.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2023 18:15     Subject: Flips on the trampoline- reality check please
Anonymous wrote:For those with family in ER who ban trampolines on account on seeing trampoline-related injuries, do you think that their sample is skewed? I mean if I was an STD doctor and saw nothing but syphilis all day, I too would be tempted to ban my kids from having sex.


Huh? ER docs don’t specialize in trampoline injuries.