Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 14:17     Subject: Re:TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:I got accepted


Congratulations!!
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 14:12     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:Please include middle school and race

Rachel Carson MS, white (waitlist)
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:50     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.


Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80


So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?



- there are no dumb students, the admitted students are all smartest in their school. It is only that some schools didn’t prepare them well for the very competetitive study environment like TJ. So if these not well prepared student can not close the gap quickly with students from Carson/Longfellow after entering TJ, the gap will be wider over time.

- election has consequence, in current political environment, racial diversity is one objective for TJ as a public school, even at the cost of lower STEM performance than before. With polarized politics national wide, and one party dominating NOVA politics, there is little chance that TJ will shift its current policy back to be race blind.

- Another factor worth mentioning is: before admission policy change, there were many middle schools have very little applicants due to historically they had no or very little students admitted to TJ. Now almost all middle schools have more applicants than their quota. This will severely decease the unused quota flow down to the top middle schools in FCPS. So Carson/Longfellow will further see decrease in admitted students in the near future



People may want this but it is illegal. This is a race-blind admission process. Decisions are made without knowledge of an applicant's race.

Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:48     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.


Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80


So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?


The good news is no school has dumber students just students who may lack the advantages of weather areas.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:21     Subject: Re:TJ Decisions are Out

Any numbers from large GT centers like Carlson and Longfellow? I heard much increased number of admissions for a private school. wondering where those seats come from.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:16     Subject: Re:TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:TJ has lost about 20 freshmen and sophomores admitted under the new system this year. Seems like larger attrition than in the past.

I suspect the school must have tried very hard to keep them, and the number may be much larger without the effort. I am very curious about how this “retention” factor may have affected the education in TJ.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:02     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.


Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80


So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?



- there are no dumb students, the admitted students are all smartest in their school. It is only that some schools didn’t prepare them well for the very competetitive study environment like TJ. So if these not well prepared student can not close the gap quickly with students from Carson/Longfellow after entering TJ, the gap will be wider over time.

- election has consequence, in current political environment, racial diversity is one objective for TJ as a public school, even at the cost of lower STEM performance than before. With polarized politics national wide, and one party dominating NOVA politics, there is little chance that TJ will shift its current policy back to be race blind.

- Another factor worth mentioning is: before admission policy change, there were many middle schools have very little applicants due to historically they had no or very little students admitted to TJ. Now almost all middle schools have more applicants than their quota. This will severely decease the unused quota flow down to the top middle schools in FCPS. So Carson/Longfellow will further see decrease in admitted students in the near future


Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:01     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Also, I’m pretty sure the 1.5 applies to all participating schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 13:00     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

I have a kid in class of 2025. Kid knows 2 kids who have left in the past two years. I’m not saying that more kids didn’t leave but I feel like she’d know more if it was 70/550 who dropped out!
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 12:32     Subject: Re:TJ Decisions are Out

I got accepted
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 12:08     Subject: Re:TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:TJ has lost about 20 freshmen and sophomores admitted under the new system this year. Seems like larger attrition than in the past.


They lost 70+ students and counting in the class of 2025. They really messed up the admissions process.

Bring back teacher recommendations at least.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:51     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.


Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80


So instead of taking the top performers across the county they take it from each school, even if the school has dumber students?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:51     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

I forgot to mention in the post above that the ranking outside the top 1.5% students in each Fairfax county public school also includes Fairfax county public school students who haven’t been selected as the top 1.5% guaranteed admission.
Anonymous wrote:This top 1.5% guaranteed admission only applies to Fairfax public schools. I asked about this during one TJ information session and was told Loudoun and other counties’ schools do not have this 1.5% guarantee. The speaker said after the top 1.5% students were taken from each Fairfax public school, the rest (including applicants from other counties, private schools, home schooled students etc.) will be admitted based on their ranking calculated with their TJ admission test scores, GPA, Free/Reduced Lunch status, IEP/disability status, etc. So students from Loudoun and other counties really didn’t benefit from the guaranteed admission.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in Loudoun. My child and all his friends were admitted to TJ. Some of these kids were waitlisted on Loudoun’s Academy of Loudoun (AOL). It seems TJ was easier to get in than AOL, at least for them. I was actually very surprised. Quite a few kids from Loudoun will decline due to the long commute.


Congratulations. The new admission system guarantee the top1.5% students from each middle school to be admitted. So as long as the kids are the top 1.5% of their school, they will get a seat.

In the past, given TJ is STEM school, it is strictly testing score plus other academic achievements, such as math count , science Olympia etc. the strong schools who provide better academic education win big, such as Carson and Longfellow, and schools outside Fairfax and FCPS middle schools without AAP centers don’t have too much chances due to weaker STEM and math education.

For those admitted students from non traditional TJ middle schools, the major factor to be considered is whether the kids can advance very fast and undergo high pressure environments. Regardless how TJ is admitting students, inside TJ, it is still test score based student performance system. In the past two years, more students admitted from non traditional TJ middle schools due to diversity objective, however they performed mediocre or poorly at TJ compared to traditional TJ middle schools. This makes it easier for students from strong middle schools to stand out with the new admission system. Before admission rule changes, Carson + Longfellow often have 150-200 students get admitted to TJ, now they probably decrease to 50-80
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:49     Subject: TJ Decisions are Out

Please include middle school and race
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2023 11:47     Subject: Re:TJ Decisions are Out

TJ has lost about 20 freshmen and sophomores admitted under the new system this year. Seems like larger attrition than in the past.