Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff deleted mulitple threads about this yesterday.

I deleted threads in which the original posters were celebrating the death of the man. That is unseemly and not something that I am going to allow.

OP, that article probably has more details than anything else I have seen about this incident and I've been actively looking for more information.

Perhaps they shouldn’t celebrate that the guy actually died but I think it’s worth celebrating citizens standing up to the plague of violent crime in this city and intervening against this criminal

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How many videos have we seen that show someone being assaulted and people standing around watching or capturing it on their phones but nobody comes to the aid of the person?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff deleted mulitple threads about this yesterday.

I deleted threads in which the original posters were celebrating the death of the man. That is unseemly and not something that I am going to allow.

OP, that article probably has more details than anything else I have seen about this incident and I've been actively looking for more information.

Perhaps they shouldn’t celebrate that the guy actually died but I think it’s worth celebrating citizens standing up to the plague of violent crime in this city and intervening against this criminal

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's crazy to me is that I do see a scenario that since she wasn't defending herself with a knife it's not self defense. That self defense doesn't extend to others saving someone that needs help? I'm not sure how the guy managed to kill him with a knife it seems like that's hard to do unless it was in the neck.

Dollars to doughnuts that a major artery got nicked or, less likely, a lung punctured. If you hit a major artery, that blood is under pressure, and it takes just minutes to exsanguinate and die.

I think it's most likely that the person doing the stabbing was not intending this full outcome in the moment, just trying to do something, and it ended up with a fatality.

Yes, DC would rather write up a police report and have you contact your insurance company than figure out how to prevent carjacking and other auto theft.

This case now is simply a huge inconvenience for DC.

Yes, carjackings are swept under the rug. Killing isn't the hero's crime. Embarrassing the city is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's crazy to me is that I do see a scenario that since she wasn't defending herself with a knife it's not self defense. That self defense doesn't extend to others saving someone that needs help? I'm not sure how the guy managed to kill him with a knife it seems like that's hard to do unless it was in the neck.

Dollars to doughnuts that a major artery got nicked or, less likely, a lung punctured. If you hit a major artery, that blood is under pressure, and it takes just minutes to exsanguinate and die.

I think it's most likely that the person doing the stabbing was not intending this full outcome in the moment, just trying to do something, and it ended up with a fatality.

Yes, DC would rather write up a police report and have you contact your insurance company than figure out how to prevent carjacking and other auto theft.

This case now is simply a huge inconvenience for DC.

Anonymous wrote:What's crazy to me is that I do see a scenario that since she wasn't defending herself with a knife it's not self defense. That self defense doesn't extend to others saving someone that needs help? I'm not sure how the guy managed to kill him with a knife it seems like that's hard to do unless it was in the neck.

Dollars to doughnuts that a major artery got nicked or, less likely, a lung punctured. If you hit a major artery, that blood is under pressure, and it takes just minutes to exsanguinate and die.

I think it's most likely that the person doing the stabbing was not intending this full outcome in the moment, just trying to do something, and it ended up with a fatality.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

The Post had a detailed story on this. Try to keep up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

WHOA WHOA WHOA, we can't let someone's priors influence any consideration of a current case.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

Actually no, the officer who initiated the chase was found guilty of second degree murder.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

Had 13yo not been in the process of steeling cars, he simply would not have been shot. Running and saying I am a kid, really does not change the situation much. Another sad case, but entirely avoidable. But who knows, maybe Karon's first ever stolen car.

He was riding in a stolen car. It wasn't his first rodeo.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

2 - The resident shot a kid who, after breaking into his car, was running towards him at 4 in the morning. Are you saying the kid would not have hurt him if he'd gotten to him?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

Had 13yo not been in the process of steeling cars, he simply would not have been shot. Running and saying I am a kid, really does not change the situation much. Another sad case, but entirely avoidable. But who knows, maybe Karon's first ever stolen car.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

1. Cops were prosecuted for mishandling evidence and lying about the circumstances of Karon Hylton Brown's being chased on a 17mph scooter, one officer had numerous illegal acts on his record as well.

2. The "resident" was a youth worker who shot an unarmed child and lied to police about it. A child who screamed, "please dont I am a kid I am 12" before he was killed. Karon Blake. The resident is currently home watching netflix awaiting trial while Karon's body rots in the dirt.

3. Please cite the source.

Anonymous wrote:Assailant turned victim was pronounced dead at the scene. He was identified as Davon Jones. Apparently according to the police, he fought the car owner for 72 seconds before the good samaritan/assailant interceded and apparently in the eyes of DC laws should have just asked the original perpetrator to stop.

According to DC law enforcement, whatever possessions we think we have today only exist at the whims of young men (and women!) who have the right to decide that it’s theirs at any moment and we are obliged to give it to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of the incident:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/news4-rundown/video-shows-carjacking-fatal-stabbing-in-dc-the-news4-rundown/3329620/

Seems like the police know why the guy who did the stabbing is (and they have his car). Hope they don't charge him with anything.

I’m sad for the stabbed that his fate is in the USAO for saving that woman. He actually pondered for a moment as to whether he should intervene.

It feels like everything is upside down right now. Perpetrators are not being proscuted but the surest way to get prosecuted is to fight back against a perpetrator. Is the idea that people are just supposed to sit back and take it like it’s some form of self-flagellation that will wash away the collective sins of the past?

Cops were prosecuted for chasing a suspect on a scooter who died.

A resident was prosecuted for shooting a kid breaking into cars on his block.

Meanwhile two-thirds of arrests, including those arrested for violent crimes are not prosecuted and almost everyone that is proscuted, including those prosecuted for violent crimes are not remanded into custody. Which leaves many free to commit more violent crimes while they are awaiting trial for other violent crimes.

But try to enforce order. Try to prevent your community from falling into chaos. Try to protect yourself and your property and the government will drop a brick on you.

Assailant turned victim was pronounced dead at the scene. He was identified as Davon Jones. Apparently according to the police, he fought the car owner for 72 seconds before the good samaritan/assailant interceded and apparently in the eyes of DC laws should have just asked the original perpetrator to stop.