Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 13:18     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Many Ivy undergrads are great, smart, brilliant, etc. The people I know who have taught at Ivies and at state flagships all say that the top tier at flagships is as good as the top tier at Ivies. Kids in honors programs at state schools are brilliant too and are competitive with the smart Ivy kids. There may be a longer tail of only merely very smart kids versus brilliant kids at the state schools, but they are good places to be.

+1 after a certain threshold in stats, admissions to T20 becomes like a lottery. The smart kids who don't win the lottery often end up at the large flagship with a lot of merit.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 13:17     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
This thread is basically one dude bro pumping himself up that he is amazing because he got into an ivy for graduate school and is therefore more deserving than undergrads. Weird. I wish these “elite” schools would stop admitting so many dark triad types.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 13:12     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To append a previous/similar post:


The Ivies do attract the absolute best. I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level. I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.



Quoting a tenured Ivy professor “I don’t know how some of the students in my class got in….this happens in every class“


It’s called: holistic admissions.



Nepotism and political connections shouldn’t be part of that if you’re arguing admissions are merit based.


Typical what-aboutism.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 10:22     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Many Ivy undergrads are great, smart, brilliant, etc. The people I know who have taught at Ivies and at state flagships all say that the top tier at flagships is as good as the top tier at Ivies. Kids in honors programs at state schools are brilliant too and are competitive with the smart Ivy kids. There may be a longer tail of only merely very smart kids versus brilliant kids at the state schools, but they are good places to be.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 10:05     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.



Maybe for Econ but not true for a lot of majors.

Also, on this board we lump law and medicine into “grad school”. Helpful to remember before you insult people’s choices here.


Not true in Econ...
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 09:40     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To append a previous/similar post:


The Ivies do attract the absolute best. I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level. I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.



Quoting a tenured Ivy professor “I don’t know how some of the students in my class got in….this happens in every class“


It’s called: holistic admissions.



Nepotism and political connections shouldn’t be part of that if you’re arguing admissions are merit based.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 07:34     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To append a previous/similar post:


The Ivies do attract the absolute best. I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level. I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.



Quoting a tenured Ivy professor “I don’t know how some of the students in my class got in….this happens in every class“


It’s called: holistic admissions.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 07:17     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:Grad schools are way easier to get in.

Best students are working for top companies making $$$ out of colleges

lol



+1
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 07:16     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.



Maybe for Econ but not true for a lot of majors.

Also, on this board we lump law and medicine into “grad school”. Helpful to remember before you insult people’s choices here.


Law degrees out outside T14 are useless.


Oh, you’re that troll. You give real Ted Cruz vibes. Someone who also shouldn’t have received an Ivy degree.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 07:14     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Grad schools are way easier to get in.

Best students are working for top companies making $$$ out of colleges

lol

Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 07:03     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To append a previous/similar post:


The Ivies do attract the absolute best. I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level. I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.



Which Ivy ?

Worthless post without naming the particular Ivy ?

My money is on Columbia.


Columbia is run like Liberty University.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 07:02     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you get a good undergraduate degree (i.e Econ at Williams or Amherst, Wharton undergrad) you won’t need to get another degree.



Maybe for Econ but not true for a lot of majors.

Also, on this board we lump law and medicine into “grad school”. Helpful to remember before you insult people’s choices here.


Law degrees out outside T14 are useless.



You are so obnoxious. And not as smart as you think you are, “Ivy TA”.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 01:41     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Anonymous wrote:To append a previous/similar post:


The Ivies do attract the absolute best. I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level. I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.



Which Ivy ?

Worthless post without naming the particular Ivy ?

My money is on Columbia.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 01:22     Subject: Re:Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
No need to waste more money and time on master’s
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 00:39     Subject: Are Ivies still enrolling the best students? Yes, but maybe not undergrads
Of course admissions based on college performance is more meaningful than admissions based on high school.