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Anonymous wrote:When a school indicates “x%” receive financial aid, is that including the employees kids? And how needy are private school teachers? I see a lot of them have expensive college educations themselves.

Financial aid and tuition remission are not the same thing. So no, that number would not include teachers who receive remission but zero aid.

I'm not sure, but I think it might include tuition remission.

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Anonymous wrote:When a school indicates “x%” receive financial aid, is that including the employees kids? And how needy are private school teachers? I see a lot of them have expensive college educations themselves.

Financial aid and tuition remission are not the same thing. So no, that number would not include teachers who receive remission but zero aid.

Exactly! I don’t want our tuition remission to be an unpaid benefit. The school doesn’t pay teachers more if they don’t send their kids there so might as well take the tuition remission. Private schools can’t afford the pay or other benefits of public systems so tuition remission is all they have for leverage. Behavior isn’t much different in public or private these days (speaking from experience).

Anonymous wrote:When a school indicates “x%” receive financial aid, is that including the employees kids? And how needy are private school teachers? I see a lot of them have expensive college educations themselves.

Financial aid and tuition remission are not the same thing. So no, that number would not include teachers who receive remission but zero aid.

I teach at a school and faculty and staff get 50% off as a benefit. You don’t need to apply for financial aid for that portion. As someone else mentioned it’s great incentive to attract good teachers and frankly the school wants faculty kids there. What does it say about the school if I teach there but send my kids to another independent school (assuming as someone wrote that I am married to money)? If I were a parent sending my kid to a school that the teachers, who know way more about the school than I, don't send their children, I would have a lot of questions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When a school indicates “x%” receive financial aid, is that including the employees kids? And how needy are private school teachers? I see a lot of them have expensive college educations themselves.

Expensive college educations often means “deep in student loan debt”, which would mean they would qualify for FA anyway.

A lot of teachers at local privates come from well-off families. That’s why they they the luxury of teaching in private & dealing with fewer behavioral issues versus going to public which has higher salaries. A Master’s in Education from Penn GSE or Columbia Teacher’s College doesn’t pay for itself.

Or, they eventually leave and the school wrings their hands and wonders why.

Anonymous wrote:Tuition breaks for teachers are a huge draw for recruitment.

Would be. And yet, they have been minimal.

^ was for 15:12 poster

^Please elaborate. Typically, what size donation makes a difference in the student’s outcomes? It’s hard to see how much families donate to schools since they discontinued publishing the donor/gift level reports.

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Anonymous wrote:When a school indicates “x%” receive financial aid, is that including the employees kids? And how needy are private school teachers? I see a lot of them have expensive college educations themselves.

Expensive college educations often means “deep in student loan debt”, which would mean they would qualify for FA anyway.

A lot of teachers at local privates come from well-off families. That’s why they they the luxury of teaching in private & dealing with fewer behavioral issues versus going to public which has higher salaries. A Master’s in Education from Penn GSE or Columbia Teacher’s College doesn’t pay for itself.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, money talks in private school. It's funny people think otherwise.

It's funny that people think that full pay plus a grand to the annual fund is enough for anyone to care

Anonymous wrote:When a school indicates “x%” receive financial aid, is that including the employees kids? And how needy are private school teachers? I see a lot of them have expensive college educations themselves.

Expensive college educations often means “deep in student loan debt”, which would mean they would qualify for FA anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools and staff all seem to be rather opaque on this topic. It allows them the leverage to offer more to some and less to others, or to change longheld internal practices without much oversight.

I'm slightly irked by the private teacher I know who gets FA, but I also know her parents foot the tuition bill. I don't know how she manages this, nor would the school want to tell me. But I know for a fact she gets a huge tuition discount AND she isn't the one paying it. So, loophole found.

Maybe the school determined that with the amount her parents could afford to assist, she still qualified for FA. You don’t know what her financial situation is. Mind your own business.

I mean, it is my business if I pay tuition to the school and make annual donations to the annual fund. How the FA $ is allotted is every parent's business. She feels like she is entitled to the FA, so she specifically does not disclose the gifts from her parents in the forms. I think that's pretty common - for teachers and non-teachers alike.

Isn't it a good thing that teacher's kids go to the school? If they don't, don't you wonder why they would choose a different school. If a teacher doesn't have a high income spouse, it makes sense to give them free tuition.

Actually, money talks in private school. It's funny people think otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools and staff all seem to be rather opaque on this topic. It allows them the leverage to offer more to some and less to others, or to change longheld internal practices without much oversight.

I'm slightly irked by the private teacher I know who gets FA, but I also know her parents foot the tuition bill. I don't know how she manages this, nor would the school want to tell me. But I know for a fact she gets a huge tuition discount AND she isn't the one paying it. So, loophole found.

Maybe the school determined that with the amount her parents could afford to assist, she still qualified for FA. You don’t know what her financial situation is. Mind your own business.

I mean, it is my business if I pay tuition to the school and make annual donations to the annual fund. How the FA $ is allotted is every parent's business. She feels like she is entitled to the FA, so she specifically does not disclose the gifts from her parents in the forms. I think that's pretty common - for teachers and non-teachers alike.

Paying tuition does not give you any right to any say in how the school spends its money. If you don’t like the school’s choices, you are free to go elsewhere. Giving money to the annual fund gives you some right to be informed about how that money is spent, but again, if you don’t agree with the school’s choice, don’t give or go elsewhere. You paying tuition or giving to the annual fund does not make any other person’s finances your business. How financial aid is allotted is not anyone’s business but the school’s. It is the school’s money to determine who gets how much. You do not know the specifics of anyone else’s financial situation to know whether or not they “deserve” FA or how much. There are many factors that go into determining FA and you cannot have the complete picture for this teacher or anyone else, and are not entitled to that information about them. If you are unhappy with your *perception* of how the school gives out FA or spends any other part of its budget, stop giving money to the annual fund and/or go somewhere else.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, it is my business if I pay tuition to the school and make annual donations to the annual fund. How the FA $ is allotted is every parent's business.

Do you also think that paying tuition and donating to the annual fund makes the school's decisions about individual teacher salaries "your business"? If not, how is that any different from FA decisions?