Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 01:10     Subject: Re:San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:How much of San Francisco’s housing problem was caused by unregulated foreign money in real estate. We need to stop selling our country to other countries and non-citizens.


Do you really think that a passed-out drug addict lying on the sidewalk would be all that much better off with a roof over his head? Any apartment you put him in would be a filthy wreck within a month. SF has a drug and crime problem that dwarfs other issues like a housing shortage.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2023 00:22     Subject: Re:San Francisco is imploding
Maybe the answer is states should be able to retain way more of their own tax generation - and also be more responsible for their costs.

i.e. California should keep more of its tax $ and pay for itself - Arkansas should keep more of its $ and pay for itself
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 23:52     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:I'm sad that I haven't had a chance to take my kids to San Francisco or Chicago yet. No way in hell we'll be going anytime soon.


See them before they are gone, I guess. Or not.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 23:44     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:The rest of the country needs to send SF money for taking the entire country’s homeless populations.
Those vagrants weren’t born in CA. SF needs to start shipping them back to the heartland or wherever they come from.



Yep - this is how much of Red State America deals with their own homeless problems - they send the sheriff to round them up and put them on a bus with a one way ticket to San Francisco, NYC, DC or elsewhere.

San Francisco and other cities should take those communities to court to make them cough up the funds to take care of their homeless or send their homeless back to them.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 23:36     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:It has NOTHING to do with liberal politics ffs. This is about not sufficiently taxing California's many billionaires, and not using that extra tax money for all the resources necessary to prevent vulnerable people from falling through the cracks.

"Liberal" is a cloak for greed in California, not an actual lived ideal. It's hypocrisy and abandonment of the vulnerable where it really counts.


NYC has a lot of billionaires. Are they taxing them sufficiently, or do they have the same homeless problem?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 23:35     Subject: Re:San Francisco is imploding
I've been to SanFran recently - I had a good time. Still love the city.

I would say a couple of things - the change in work habits during covid has obviously drawn people out of the city and the impact is clear.

There is also a very large issue with unhoused individual but it's too cute by half for the tech companies who have figured out it's cheaper to have people WFH to pretend that homeless people is the reason they're not all sending workers back to SanFran offices.

SanFran local government has to do a much better job in dealing with the very obvious problem that they're facing with unhoused individuals and open air drug use. Vacuous claims that 'we must address the root problem' fools no one.

Going back to the city in July for a wedding. Will happy to visit there again.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 23:33     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
I'm sad that I haven't had a chance to take my kids to San Francisco or Chicago yet. No way in hell we'll be going anytime soon.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 23:29     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whole Foods in downtown has decided to close because of crime and vagrancy, and because the company can no longer guarantee the safety of its workers:

https://sfstandard.com/business/downtown-san-francisco-whole-foods-market-closing/

Starbucks has had to remove seats now because the homeless invading its stores:


https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/sf-castro-starbucks-seating-removed-17854447.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight

WFH is adding another whammy to the city, which is now expected to be in trouble with an $800M budget deficits:


https://sfstandard.com/politics/city-hall/san-franciscos-deficit-swells-to-780m-in-latest-sign-of-budget-distress/

Really said to see how SF style leadership has destroyed a once beautiful city that is falling into the pits of lawlessness and financial disaster. Mind-blowing how they can keep re-election the same over and over and over again when the results keep getting worse and worse and now and businesses are closing up shop and are fleeing. Why do so many other cities and voters continue to vote for politicians trying to run on a similar model like SF's politicians? It is scary how fast SF has declined.


Why do you care if you don't live there? I seriously don't care about the rural hellhole that most of the Republicans live in. You should do the same.


DP. And yet, I bet you're one of DCUM's finest who obsess constantly about Florida, even though you don't live there. Right?
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 22:54     Subject: Re:San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:Still sad that people would rather live in a liberal hellhole than where ever you live, OP? Housing prices don’t lie.


Hysterical people.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 22:51     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
I live 40 minutes away from SF and there are plenty of neighborhoods that are very decent. I think that’s why people vote for who they vote - they hide in those decent neighborhoods and love doing good on paper.
The only thing preventing other progressive places from becoming SF is the weather imo.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 22:13     Subject: Re:San Francisco is imploding
what a dump
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 22:09     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It has NOTHING to do with liberal politics ffs. This is about not sufficiently taxing California's many billionaires, and not using that extra tax money for all the resources necessary to prevent vulnerable people from falling through the cracks.

"Liberal" is a cloak for greed in California, not an actual lived ideal. It's hypocrisy and abandonment of the vulnerable where it really counts.


Its unsafe. They need to do something about safety to clean it up so businesses can still do business there and people can live in the homes.


They HAVE done something: they defunded the SF police, like everyone should. Because of racism.


Yeah, let’s get rid of the police all together!!!!! Then let’s see what happens to crime!!!!! Do it San Fran.


+ 1 - yes, the SF voters are getting what they voted for. They should be perfectly happy now that there are less police + more criminals/homeless. Defunding the police is what they marched for in 2020 so I am happy that democracy is working
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 20:29     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:The rest of the country needs to send SF money for taking the entire country’s homeless populations.
Those vagrants weren’t born in CA. SF needs to start shipping them back to the heartland or wherever they come from.



That's what Atlanta does..
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 20:21     Subject: San Francisco is imploding
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The rest of the country needs to send SF money for taking the entire country’s homeless populations.
Those vagrants weren’t born in CA. SF needs to start shipping them back to the heartland or wherever they come from.



It's a free country. People are allowed to go wherever they want. No one owes SF anything. Vagrabys wouldn't go there in the first place is SF never condoned open drug use, severely punished quality of life crimes/stealing/etc., and didn't try to hand out a whole bunch of free stuff after taxing the crap outta productive citizens.


Please. So easy to watch another city absorb your home grown problems.
People go to California because they can live outside all year.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2023 20:09     Subject: Re:San Francisco is imploding
I don't want to hear a single sentence about "food deserts".

San Francisco is getting exactly what they wanted.