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Anonymous wrote:What age is menarche and puberty? 12? menopause and midlife crisis? 50?

Your best fertile years and max physical, sexual and mental phase is between 20-50. Why start at 35 or 40?

In the circles that frequent this site, it’s common to only want to have 1 or 2 kids.

No reasonable person wants more but its ideal to have them between 25-35.

Anonymous wrote:What age is menarche and puberty? 12? menopause and midlife crisis? 50?

Your best fertile years and max physical, sexual and mental phase is between 20-50. Why start at 35 or 40?

In the circles that frequent this site, it’s common to only want to have 1 or 2 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:25 is too old to need parental help (and I say that as someone with advanced degrees who was in school for a million years).

+1 but if you are still getting education related support, then you are too young to marry.

Very middle class attitudes.

vast majority of people are middle class.

IMO, 25 is too young to get married, anyways. Marriage should not be entered into lightly, and most people at 25 here in the US are too immature to be married at that age.

More than maturity, most people have debt, not enough income and no parental money. Its a handicap for most as they don't have a choice.

Two incomes would ameliorate the financial issues you mention.

I know. I'm saying it became a norm because its not affordable for most. It shouldn't stop high potential young couples if they want to get married.

What age is menarche and puberty? 12? menopause and midlife crisis? 50?

Your best fertile years and max physical, sexual and mental phase is between 20-50. Why start at 35 or 40?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:25 is too old to need parental help (and I say that as someone with advanced degrees who was in school for a million years).

+1 but if you are still getting education related support, then you are too young to marry.

Very middle class attitudes.

vast majority of people are middle class.

IMO, 25 is too young to get married, anyways. Marriage should not be entered into lightly, and most people at 25 here in the US are too immature to be married at that age.

More than maturity, most people have debt, not enough income and no parental money. Its a handicap for most as they don't have a choice.

Two incomes would ameliorate the financial issues you mention.

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Anonymous wrote:My niece married for financial aid purposes in college. Marriage saves $.

That also can lead to divorce.

https://divorce.com/blog/divorce-statistics/

Married couples between the ages of 20 to 25 are 60% likely to get a divorce.

too young.

People in second and third marriage have a higher rate. Why do people even bother?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:25 is too old to need parental help (and I say that as someone with advanced degrees who was in school for a million years).

+1 but if you are still getting education related support, then you are too young to marry.

Very middle class attitudes.

vast majority of people are middle class.

IMO, 25 is too young to get married, anyways. Marriage should not be entered into lightly, and most people at 25 here in the US are too immature to be married at that age.

More than maturity, most people have debt, not enough income and no parental money. Its a handicap for most as they don't have a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:25 is too old to need parental help (and I say that as someone with advanced degrees who was in school for a million years).

+1 but if you are still getting education related support, then you are too young to marry.

If I had waited, I would be 35 before getting attending salary, would've lost my fiancé and thawing frozen eggs for IVF.

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Anonymous wrote:Educational help doesn’t count.

why?

Because parents who have the financial means position their kids to come out of med school, law school or MBA debt-free. Weddings too. Make no mistake, the kids are high-earning, charming and well-educated themselves.

Bill Gates paid for Jennifer’s medical school & bought her housing to live in during it. He has the means to and it would be unnecessarily hampering her to not do so. Avoid futility.

This. Everyone's situation and wishes are different.

Anonymous wrote:If you are not independent at 25, are you too young to marry?

It depends. If you are still in grad/professional school, you are technically old and able enough to become financially independent with your undergraduate degree. Its just that you are delaying it to increase your income potential. Its not the same thing as not being able to get a job.

My BIL's son got married at 22 because he was going to medical school in another state and his GF could move with him and work there but didn't want to move as a GF. He just finished medical school and got matched for residency. It would be 3 more years of residency and 2 more years of fellowship before he starts earning well. They are doing well and thriving together. He didn't have to face dating drama or loneliness and had a supportive partner with him. One size doesn't fit all.

Our friend’s son married a classmate the summer he graduated from West Point. Apparently, it was advantageous in a lot of ways for him to do that.

Anonymous wrote:I got married at 23 and my DH 25. We’ve been married 29 years and still strong. We were both financially independent by the time we got married. No help from parents at all.

The book “The Millionaire Next Door” discussed about how in the author’s survey revealed that majority of the millionaires made it on their own. Most millionaires don’t depend on parental “economic outpatient care.”

Authors Stanley and Danko discovered that most millionaires didn’t have much oversight from their parents. They took charge of their own finances and created their own financial security without relying on their parents’ wealth.

Of course they feel that way.

I got married at 23 and my DH 25. We’ve been married 29 years and still strong. We were both financially independent by the time we got married. No help from parents at all.

The book “The Millionaire Next Door” discussed about how in the author’s survey revealed that majority of the millionaires made it on their own. Most millionaires don’t depend on parental “economic outpatient care.”

Authors Stanley and Danko discovered that most millionaires didn’t have much oversight from their parents. They took charge of their own finances and created their own financial security without relying on their parents’ wealth.

plenty of people aren't independent and getting married at 30 and 35. 25 is too young for me though

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Anonymous wrote:My niece married for financial aid purposes in college. Marriage saves $.

That also can lead to divorce.

https://divorce.com/blog/divorce-statistics/

Married couples between the ages of 20 to 25 are 60% likely to get a divorce.

too young.

That’s for the general population, not UMC college educated folks.

25 yr olds aren't umc. Their parents are, but the 25 yr olds are generally not.

Family backgrounds & compatibility are predictive & matter.