Anonymous
Post 04/02/2023 09:40     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

In previous generations, HOS at certain prep schools had connections with deans of admissions at certain colleges. Well established pipelines like those mentioned here. All They had to do was put a good word in for a student and they were in.

Those days are officially over. The tap is dry.

I currently work at a college - no legacy preference - but offer tuition remission (50% to any outside schools, 100% at our school) which is absurdly generous.

It's why I work there. Pretty much the only reason I work there.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2023 09:11     Subject: Re:Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. There’s a reason Lawrenceville places so well with Princeton, BBN with Harvard, and Germantown Friends with Penn. I think if you have the stats, it’s not as much of a crapshoot, but probably not guaranteed.


I lived in Philly for awhile and found it interesting how middle class Germantown Friends, Friends Select & Penn Charter skewed. Definitely did not get a “rich kid” vibe from any of those schools based on our experience with a child at one of them and friends at the others, which was refreshing. The public schools in the city are really, really bad and cost of housing is low so it leads to that phenomenon.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 21:12     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most colleges have tuition exchange. So if you work at a college/university -- there is a good chance that wherever your kid goes -- he/she will get 25K off yearly tuition -- or sometimes more through the exchange. It's not really an exchange -- that's just what it is called

I have a friend who used this for all three kids -- different colleges - different amounts.


This is being phased out. Georgetown for example has made its plan way less generous.


No, 100s of colleges participate. My kid has free tuition at a school parents here would excoriate.

There are more schools than Georgetown.



I think PP is responding because there have been false posts regarding Georgetown (whom I agree is definitely NOT generous).


I work at Georgetown. There tuition assistance program is not as generous as it once was, but it's still pretty good: if your kids go to Georgetown, the school pays 2/3 off tuition; if your kids go anywhere else, you get the equivalent of 1/3 of Georgetown tuition (today, that's about $21k/year). I have two kids, which means I will get $160k toward college for them from Georgetown. Not bad!
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 20:52     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most colleges have tuition exchange. So if you work at a college/university -- there is a good chance that wherever your kid goes -- he/she will get 25K off yearly tuition -- or sometimes more through the exchange. It's not really an exchange -- that's just what it is called

I have a friend who used this for all three kids -- different colleges - different amounts.


Uh.

I'm a professor (tenured). We do not have this.


You missed the “most colleges” part.


PP here. Crap. My school is on the list! I have never heard of this. Hmm.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 20:52     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most colleges have tuition exchange. So if you work at a college/university -- there is a good chance that wherever your kid goes -- he/she will get 25K off yearly tuition -- or sometimes more through the exchange. It's not really an exchange -- that's just what it is called

I have a friend who used this for all three kids -- different colleges - different amounts.


Uh.

I'm a professor (tenured). We do not have this.


You missed the “most colleges” part.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 20:50     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:Most colleges have tuition exchange. So if you work at a college/university -- there is a good chance that wherever your kid goes -- he/she will get 25K off yearly tuition -- or sometimes more through the exchange. It's not really an exchange -- that's just what it is called

I have a friend who used this for all three kids -- different colleges - different amounts.


Uh.

I'm a professor (tenured). We do not have this.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 20:47     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:It’s a hook and one of the terms in the abbreviation ALDC.

A -Athlete, L - Legacy, D - Dean’s interest and C - Children of faculty, etc.


PPs are trying to tell you, and I can confirm, that it depends on the school - but most schools (especially the most desirable schools) did away with any faculty or stafff member hooks. Some MIGHT be grandfathered in, IF the faculty member has been with the same schools maybe two decades or so.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 20:37     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:Columbia faculty member told me that it stopped helping about 3 years ago. Noticeable drop in faculty kid acceptances unless it was faculty they were worried about losing.

What really helps now at Columbia is staff kid. Especially staff kid of line workers / labor force at the school. This professor told me acceptance was “10x usual Columbia acceptance rate”’ non-faculty staff kids.

Seems believable but not way to verify


Not sure how it works at top schools, but I know that at my child’s college, the custodians, food service workers, construction, bus drivers and maintenance are all employees of companies that contract with the university.

A kid of a lunch lady at the college, if they have very good stats, is probably a first-generation college applicant, so I could see why that would be impressive in the admissions process.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 20:33     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

It’s a hook and one of the terms in the abbreviation ALDC.

A -Athlete, L - Legacy, D - Dean’s interest and C - Children of faculty, etc.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 19:19     Subject: Re:Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. There’s a reason Lawrenceville places so well with Princeton, BBN with Harvard, and Germantown Friends with Penn. I think if you have the stats, it’s not as much of a crapshoot, but probably not guaranteed.
And Wheeler with Brown
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 19:08     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Columbia faculty member told me that it stopped helping about 3 years ago. Noticeable drop in faculty kid acceptances unless it was faculty they were worried about losing.

What really helps now at Columbia is staff kid. Especially staff kid of line workers / labor force at the school. This professor told me acceptance was “10x usual Columbia acceptance rate”’ non-faculty staff kids.

Seems believable but not way to verify
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 17:56     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most colleges have tuition exchange. So if you work at a college/university -- there is a good chance that wherever your kid goes -- he/she will get 25K off yearly tuition -- or sometimes more through the exchange. It's not really an exchange -- that's just what it is called

I have a friend who used this for all three kids -- different colleges - different amounts.


This is being phased out. Georgetown for example has made its plan way less generous.


There is actually a formal tuition exchange separate from the school-specific tuition benefit a lot of schools offer. It's mostly small private schools, no Ivies, state schools or top SLACS, but a few bigger names. Tuitionexchange.org.

My husband is faculty at a participating school and it doesn't offer an admissions advantage, you have to apply competitively to the exchange AND member schools, but the benefit is 41k. Which is great because said university doesn't even pay faculty twice that.


This. We're in the same boat with the TE program. DCs still have to be quite academically strong to win a scholarship through TE, and there are elaborate rules governing how many faculty children a given school can send out depending on how many faculty children from elsewhere it accepts and scholarships. It's not a burden by any means, but it's also not a simple free ride.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 15:21     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Anonymous wrote:If you are faculty at a top 20 university is that a hook for college admissions for your kid?


Do you mean at the parent’s school? Because in a college town, MANY high school students are children of faculty. They can’t all get in. And with a desire to form a balanced class, they all won’t, even if highly qualified.
Can it help? Maybe. But I also know of Dept Chairs whose kids were rejected.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 12:52     Subject: Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Why are people talking about private schools? The OP is referring to faculty at the college level.

And yes, some schools offer preference (much like legacy) to the children of faculty and staff. It is a legitimate hook. The child of a k-12 educator, not a hook.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2023 12:39     Subject: Re:Is being a faculty parent a hook?

Good luck getting tenure nowadays.