Anonymous
04/07/2023 21:35
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The PP insisting McLean is "so much more diverse" than Langley just sounds absurd. Langley is like a mini United Nations - kids from all over the world. And the "economic diversity" found at McLean is minimal. Please.
Not PP but McLean is certainly more diverse and less conservative than Langley.
And if Langley is like a mini-UN, it’s a mini-UN without one hemisphere and another continent.
So tell us you've never set foot inside Langley without actually telling us. There are kids there from all continents - except Antarctica. I seriously doubt McLean could say the same.
Langley is less than 9% Black and Hispanic and here you are pretending it’s a winner in the diversity Olympics with your “mini-UN” drivel?
McLean - and every other high school in the county - is more diverse.
Oh, right! I completely forgot that black and Hispanic are the only two minority groups that count. Thanks for the really useful reminder!
Anonymous
04/07/2023 21:04
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Tell us you know nothing about McLean without actually telling us. McLean and Langley each have international students from all over the planet.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The PP insisting McLean is "so much more diverse" than Langley just sounds absurd. Langley is like a mini United Nations - kids from all over the world. And the "economic diversity" found at McLean is minimal. Please.
Not PP but McLean is certainly more diverse and less conservative than Langley.
And if Langley is like a mini-UN, it’s a mini-UN without one hemisphere and another continent.
So tell us you've never set foot inside Langley without actually telling us. There are kids there from all continents - except Antarctica
Anonymous
04/07/2023 13:09
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry for posting in two places - I was confused about what school system the school is part of.
We are considering a move, and are trying to figure out what high school would be best for my rising 9th grader. McLean High looks like it has a lot to commend it, but we are trying to assess how difficult it would be for him to make new friends. Do a lot of different middle schools feed into McLean?
Langley HS is a much better choice, IMHO. Langley is either under capacity or near capacity with new facilities while McLean is over capacity with much older facilities. Believe it or not, there are multiple trailers at McLean HS and they will be there for a VERY LONG TIME. I just don't see it changing anytime soon.
Temporary trailers still at McLean. Four ( 4 ) of them remain, after the previous 17 were replaced by a “pod” or pre-fab, semi-permanent structure.
The 4 trailers are far beyond their lifespan. Several were found to have extensive black mold problems.
There are a lot of fantastic things about McLean but if your top priority is avoiding a school with any trailers or a modular then under-enrolled Langley is a better choice.
Other high schools with trailers and/or a modular this year include South Lakes, Annandale, Marshall, Edison, Centreville, Robinson, Chantilly, Fairfax, Westfield, and Woodson.
Anonymous
04/07/2023 13:01
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There’s more to a school than its building. We don’t regret picking McLean over Langley.
What made you pick McLean over Langley, if you don't mind sharing?
I am not the PP. Pros of choosing McLean over Langley:
- Much more diverse student from many cultures and economics backgrounds,
- A good number of students are on free or reduced lunch. You have empathy for others,
Cons of choosing McLean over Langley:
facilities are much older and overcrowded. I see it with my own eyes during between classes, the hallway is madness,- classes are in trailers,
Pros of choosing Langley:
- Newer facilities and academic is at least equal or better than McLean,
Cons of choosing Langley:
not very diverse students, unless you count Asians and Indians as minorities,
- Solid UMC or wealthy,
- very few students on reduced or free lunch,
- the ports are much more competitive than McLean
Asians and Indians are not minorities.
Anonymous
04/07/2023 12:56
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry for posting in two places - I was confused about what school system the school is part of.
We are considering a move, and are trying to figure out what high school would be best for my rising 9th grader. McLean High looks like it has a lot to commend it, but we are trying to assess how difficult it would be for him to make new friends. Do a lot of different middle schools feed into McLean?
Langley HS is a much better choice, IMHO. Langley is either under capacity or near capacity with new facilities while McLean is over capacity with much older facilities. Believe it or not, there are multiple trailers at McLean HS and they will be there for a VERY LONG TIME. I just don't see it changing anytime soon.
Temporary trailers still at McLean. Four ( 4 ) of them remain, after the previous 17 were replaced by a “pod” or pre-fab, semi-permanent structure.
The 4 trailers are far beyond their lifespan. Several were found to have extensive black mold problems.
Anonymous
04/07/2023 07:50
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems bizarre because there are some middle schools that feed into at least 3 high schools.
Neighborhood high schools typically have one or two middle school feeders (in terms of base boundaries; it gets more complicated with AAP programs):
One feeder:
Centreville - Liberty
Fairfax - Johnson
Hayfield - Hayfield (secondary school)
Herndon - Herndon
Justice - Glasgow
Lake Braddock - Lake Braddock (secondary school)
Langley - Cooper
Lewis - Key
McLean - Longfellow
Mount Vernon - Whitman
Robinson - Robinson (secondary school)
South County - South County
West Potomac - Sandburg
West Springfield - Irving
Woodson - Frost
Two feeders:
Annandale - Holmes, Poe
Chantilly - Franklin, Rocky Run
Edison - Holmes, Twain
Falls Church - Jackson, Poe
Madison- Kilmer, Thoreau
Marshall - Kilmer, Thoreau
South Lakes - Carson, Hughes
Three feeders:
Oakton - Carson, Franklin, Thoreau
Westfield - Carson, Franklin, Stone
I tried to update this to reflect not just base boundaries, but also the current AAP program assignments (FCPS doesn't spell this out explicitly, so this may not be 100% accurate, but it should be fairly close):
One feeder:
Fairfax - Johnson
Justice - Glasgow
Lake Braddock - Lake Braddock (secondary school)
Langley - Cooper
McLean - Longfellow
South County - South County
West Potomac - Sandburg
Woodson - Frost
Two feeders:
Centreville - Liberty, Rocky Run
Herndon - Herndon, Hughes
Mount Vernon - Whitman, Sandburg
Robinson - Robinson (secondary school), Lake Braddock
South Lakes - Carson, Hughes
West Springfield - Irving, Lake Braddock
Three feeders:
Chantilly - Franklin, Rocky Run, Carson
Edison - Holmes, Twain, Glasgow
Falls Church - Jackson, Poe, Glasgow
Hayfield - Hayfield (secondary school), Lake Braddock, Twain
Lewis - Key, Lake Braddock, Twain
Madison- Kilmer, Thoreau, Jackson
Marshall - Kilmer, Thoreau, Jackson
Four feeders:
Annandale - Holmes, Poe, Frost, Glasgow
Oakton - Carson, Franklin, Thoreau, Jackson
Westfield - Carson, Franklin, Stone, Rocky Run
So this suggests that 1/3 of the neighborhood high schools in FCPS only draw from a single middle school, when you factor in AAP middle school assignments.
South Lakes might have two feeder schools but the number of kids coming from Carson is relatively small. I believe that it is mainly the kids from Fox Mill and some kids from Floris but that is it. Fox Mill sends a max of 90, but probably less then that because of kids going Private, kid(s) going to TK, or transferring to an AP school. Most of South Lakes is coming from Hughes
There are no doubt other examples of schools where some of the feeders don’t send many kids. At Edison, for example, the vast majority of kids come from Twain, but they have kids from one ES (Bren Mar Park) coming from Holmes and then an even smaller number zoned for BMP from the AAP program at Glasgow.
At Marshall, the majority come from Kilmer, but there are a relatively small number from Thoreau, and a really small number from Jackson (it would be AAP kids from one ES (Cunningham Park) zoned for Marshall who have Thoreau as the base school but Jackson as the AAP school.
With McLean and Langley, on the other hand, you just have kids coming from one MS. Not sure it really makes much of a difference in terms of being accepting of newcomers, OP’s original concern, because both schools also have kids coming from privates and a fair number of newcomers every year. Getting involved with some activity is always going to be the best way to meet others outside the classroom.
Anonymous
04/07/2023 07:18
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The PP insisting McLean is "so much more diverse" than Langley just sounds absurd. Langley is like a mini United Nations - kids from all over the world. And the "economic diversity" found at McLean is minimal. Please.
Not PP but McLean is certainly more diverse and less conservative than Langley.
And if Langley is like a mini-UN, it’s a mini-UN without one hemisphere and another continent.
So tell us you've never set foot inside Langley without actually telling us. There are kids there from all continents - except Antarctica
Langley is less than 9% Black and Hispanic and here you are pretending it’s a winner in the diversity Olympics with your “mini-UN” drivel?
McLean - and every other high school in the county - is more diverse.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 23:47
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The PP insisting McLean is "so much more diverse" than Langley just sounds absurd. Langley is like a mini United Nations - kids from all over the world. And the "economic diversity" found at McLean is minimal. Please.
Not PP but McLean is certainly more diverse and less conservative than Langley.
And if Langley is like a mini-UN, it’s a mini-UN without one hemisphere and another continent.
So tell us you've never set foot inside Langley without actually telling us. There are kids there from all continents - except Antarctica
. I seriously doubt McLean could say the same.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 23:25
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems bizarre because there are some middle schools that feed into at least 3 high schools.
Neighborhood high schools typically have one or two middle school feeders (in terms of base boundaries; it gets more complicated with AAP programs):
One feeder:
Centreville - Liberty
Fairfax - Johnson
Hayfield - Hayfield (secondary school)
Herndon - Herndon
Justice - Glasgow
Lake Braddock - Lake Braddock (secondary school)
Langley - Cooper
Lewis - Key
McLean - Longfellow
Mount Vernon - Whitman
Robinson - Robinson (secondary school)
South County - South County
West Potomac - Sandburg
West Springfield - Irving
Woodson - Frost
Two feeders:
Annandale - Holmes, Poe
Chantilly - Franklin, Rocky Run
Edison - Holmes, Twain
Falls Church - Jackson, Poe
Madison- Kilmer, Thoreau
Marshall - Kilmer, Thoreau
South Lakes - Carson, Hughes
Three feeders:
Oakton - Carson, Franklin, Thoreau
Westfield - Carson, Franklin, Stone
I tried to update this to reflect not just base boundaries, but also the current AAP program assignments (FCPS doesn't spell this out explicitly, so this may not be 100% accurate, but it should be fairly close):
One feeder:
Fairfax - Johnson
Justice - Glasgow
Lake Braddock - Lake Braddock (secondary school)
Langley - Cooper
McLean - Longfellow
South County - South County
West Potomac - Sandburg
Woodson - Frost
Two feeders:
Centreville - Liberty, Rocky Run
Herndon - Herndon, Hughes
Mount Vernon - Whitman, Sandburg
Robinson - Robinson (secondary school), Lake Braddock
South Lakes - Carson, Hughes
West Springfield - Irving, Lake Braddock
Three feeders:
Chantilly - Franklin, Rocky Run, Carson
Edison - Holmes, Twain, Glasgow
Falls Church - Jackson, Poe, Glasgow
Hayfield - Hayfield (secondary school), Lake Braddock, Twain
Lewis - Key, Lake Braddock, Twain
Madison- Kilmer, Thoreau, Jackson
Marshall - Kilmer, Thoreau, Jackson
Four feeders:
Annandale - Holmes, Poe, Frost, Glasgow
Oakton - Carson, Franklin, Thoreau, Jackson
Westfield - Carson, Franklin, Stone, Rocky Run
So this suggests that 1/3 of the neighborhood high schools in FCPS only draw from a single middle school, when you factor in AAP middle school assignments.
South Lakes might have two feeder schools but the number of kids coming from Carson is relatively small. I believe that it is mainly the kids from Fox Mill and some kids from Floris but that is it. Fox Mill sends a max of 90, but probably less then that because of kids going Private, kid(s) going to TK, or transferring to an AP school. Most of South Lakes is coming from Hughes
Anonymous
04/06/2023 19:38
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:The PP insisting McLean is "so much more diverse" than Langley just sounds absurd. Langley is like a mini United Nations - kids from all over the world. And the "economic diversity" found at McLean is minimal. Please.
Not PP but McLean is certainly more diverse and less conservative than Langley.
And if Langley is like a mini-UN, it’s a mini-UN without one hemisphere and another continent.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 19:27
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
The PP insisting McLean is "so much more diverse" than Langley just sounds absurd. Langley is like a mini United Nations - kids from all over the world. And the "economic diversity" found at McLean is minimal. Please.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 17:55
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There’s more to a school than its building. We don’t regret picking McLean over Langley.
What made you pick McLean over Langley, if you don't mind sharing?
I am not the PP. Pros of choosing McLean over Langley:
- Much more diverse student from many cultures and economics backgrounds,
- A good number of students are on free or reduced lunch. You have empathy for others,
Cons of choosing McLean over Langley:
facilities are much older and overcrowded. I see it with my own eyes during between classes, the hallway is madness,- classes are in trailers,
Pros of choosing Langley:
- Newer facilities and academic is at least equal or better than McLean,
Cons of choosing Langley:
not very diverse students, unless you count Asians and Indians as minorities,
- Solid UMC or wealthy,
- very few students on reduced or free lunch,
- the ports are much more competitive than McLean
I’m sorry, but you don’t move to McLean for socioeconomic diversity.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 17:35
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Oakton HS and Westfield HS are SO far apart, it is bizarre that they both pull from the same MS (Franklin.). These boundaries make no sense.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 14:34
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:
What made you pick McLean over Langley, if you don't mind sharing?
We were seriously considering two houses in McLean, one zoned to Langley and the other to McLean. The main reasons we went with the McLean-zoned house at the time were: (1) it was closer to DC and Metro; (2) the Langley-zoned house was bigger than we really needed; and (3) we preferred a school with greater diversity than Langley.
The reason why we don't regret the choice, notwithstanding the continued overcrowding, are that it's been a really good school for our kids and, in particular, our kids have gotten involved with activities at McLean - band, crew, boys tennis, and the student newspaper - that were at least as good at McLean as their Langley counterparts. Our kids didn't want to take Russian or Japanese, so the additional language offerings at Langley were a non-issue.
Having said that, I expect we would have been happy at Langley as well.
Anonymous
04/06/2023 14:10
Subject: How many middle schools feed into McLean High
Anonymous wrote:
There’s more to a school than its building. We don’t regret picking McLean over Langley.
What made you pick McLean over Langley, if you don't mind sharing?
I am not the PP. Pros of choosing McLean over Langley:
- Much more diverse student from many cultures and economics backgrounds,
- A good number of students are on free or reduced lunch. You have empathy for others,
Cons of choosing McLean over Langley:
facilities are much older and overcrowded. I see it with my own eyes during between classes, the hallway is madness,- classes are in trailers,
Pros of choosing Langley:
- Newer facilities and academic is at least equal or better than McLean,
Cons of choosing Langley:
not very diverse students, unless you count Asians and Indians as minorities,
- Solid UMC or wealthy,
- very few students on reduced or free lunch,
- the ports are much more competitive than McLean