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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

It's not logical really. If you want to create any kind of collaborative work environment where there are actual benefits from humans working together, all people need to come in to make the benefits possible. There is really zero point to coming in to work and Zooming all day.

Oh please. With Teams, email, IM, the occasional onsite . . . . collaboration is fine for the vast majority of jobs. Employers want to flex their authority, nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

You are weirdly invested in disputing this.

Not np. I propose starting the "get off your as... and go back to work" movement. I'm sure none of you would show up.

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Anonymous wrote:Big babies.

Why do I feel like you are the one going into everyones office and yapping on and on about your cats for an hour while we are all trying to get our work done?

Doesn't change the fact that you are a BABY. Put on your big girl pants and get out their and conquer the world! Isn't that what women wanted? Go do it!

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

You should start a side hustle matching lazy parents like us with all of these before and after care programs that are up and running! Would you like the current status of our waitlists for reference? Also, our budget is under $1000 per week, so please keep that in mind. Can't wait for you to help me!

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

You are weirdly invested in disputing this.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

lol! Ok.

That’s the breaks for you. You had the kids, you make it work.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

lol! Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Where do you live they disappeared?

A cave.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Where do you live they disappeared?

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

It's not logical really. If you want to create any kind of collaborative work environment where there are actual benefits from humans working together, all people need to come in to make the benefits possible. There is really zero point to coming in to work and Zooming all day.

People with international teams do just that, genius. I can zoom at home with my overseas team or do it in the office. Doesn't matter to me.

Thanks for calling me a genius. Appreciated. My spouse had this kind of job where his whole team was international and everyone zoomed for everything. That's not the situation for most American workers. It's also a different situation if everyone on the team is on the level playing field of interacting only online. Sub-par in terms of relationship building and collaboration, but a level playing field at least. As soon as some people are regularly interacting in person, it's a disadvantage to the people who are only online.

I am in a mostly in-person industry and the remote workers never get promoted and just stay in the same jobs forever and are mostly lower-level staff. Which I'm sure is fine for some of them.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

Anonymous wrote:Most have started requiring 3 days in the office, and if not, it's coming. I'm talking about the private industry, not government.

I don't know why any of you are surprised.

Requiring is a strong word. The data shows that most companies think hybrid is ideal but I know a lot of folks in the private sector DC area who go in closer to 1-2 days a week, and many are fully remote.

I have always been remote even pre COVID - I work in policy and national companies often are HQ'd elsewhere and like to have small offices in DC to keep up with the Hill etc. so since kids I've always been able to get away with doing mostly from home and only going in for big meetings, and to cover things on the Hill. (I'm not a lobbyist who constantly has to wine and dine - I'm on the analysis side so crunching numbers, writing reports, etc. which lends itself well to remote).