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Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

I just have to say it- inclusions, PP, not occlusions. Two totally different words with two totally different meanings. And it’s VVS, not VSS.

True, but overall, they are right. They are diamonds. A trained eye with a loupe can tell lab grown versus a natural stone. It’s all about the cut. I don’t think anybody will be taking such a close look at your stone, that they can tell it is lab versus mined.

It’s the same with lab grown sapphires, rubies and emeralds. They are the same gem just not mined and without inclusions and veining. Some people want that and some people don’t care.

Omg NO. You’re right that they’re distinguishable under a loop but it has nothing to do with the cut. The inclusions in lab diamonds have characteristics that are distinguishable from natural.

This is completely different than corundum stones (sapphires and rubies) where the lab versions do not have any kind of inclusions.

I have been contemplating lab grown studs for a few years. I say a thing on TV basically saying they were worth $50, but he was a natural diamond promoter. I kept thinking prices might drop, but they haven't

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

I just have to say it- inclusions, PP, not occlusions. Two totally different words with two totally different meanings. And it’s VVS, not VSS.

True, but overall, they are right. They are diamonds. A trained eye with a loupe can tell lab grown versus a natural stone. It’s all about the cut. I don’t think anybody will be taking such a close look at your stone, that they can tell it is lab versus mined.

It’s the same with lab grown sapphires, rubies and emeralds. They are the same gem just not mined and without inclusions and veining. Some people want that and some people don’t care.

I'm think the same thing, any suggestions on where to buy?

Get the lab ones and I hope they shine enough to take the attention away from your face.
Tattoos, jewelry,any bling0bling, luxury cars, accessories - all so 90s.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

You’re so very wrong. Mined diamonds absolutely come in lower clarities.

Mined diamonds = "natural stones"
Manmade = lab grown, total clarity unless artificially introduced

No, you’re completely wrong. IGO grades lab clarity like any other diamond. And the quality varies just like mined.

*IGI

Anonymous wrote:Another thing to note is that diamonds aren’t actually rare, despite what the industry would have you believe.

If looking for a special piece of jewelry, go with another type of stone like a sapphire or ruby.

This is a myth. Gem quality diamonds are, in fact, rare. As was proven when the De Beers monopoly fell.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

You’re so very wrong. Mined diamonds absolutely come in lower clarities.

Mined diamonds = "natural stones"
Manmade = lab grown, total clarity unless artificially introduced

No, you’re completely wrong. IGO grades lab clarity like any other diamond. And the quality varies just like mined.

Lab diamonds are diamonds, the same as natural diamonds. Kind of like a $20 bill printed in Nashville is the same as a $20 bill printed in Portland - totally undistinguishable and interchangeable, except they came from different places. But you'd never know where a particular $20 bill came from bc they're all the same.

I have experience with both Lightbox and Vrai and I have to say I prefer the Vrai stones. Lightbox is cheaper though and also a spectacular product so no real knock on them either.

Any recommendations on where to get lab grown diamonds?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

You’re so very wrong. Mined diamonds absolutely come in lower clarities.

Mined diamonds = "natural stones"
Manmade = lab grown, total clarity unless artificially introduced

Are you sure about that? some of the larger man made diamonds I am looking at have a lot of inclusions, to the point of looking kind of bad because of all the black dots.

There are different levels of quality in man made diamonds too.

Anonymous wrote:I prefer natural diamonds but it's all about the setting. A good setting will make CZ look real. I would not spend above that for lab diamonds.

No. CZ has a different chemical structure from diamonds, the base is cubic instead of pyramidal. Therefore they are not as sparkly or strong, and become cloudy over time.

Lab grown diamonds are actual diamonds.

Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

I just have to say it- inclusions, PP, not occlusions. Two totally different words with two totally different meanings. And it’s VVS, not VSS.

Anonymous wrote:I love my diamond studs. If I lost them, I’d absolutely replace them with lab made diamonds. Lab made diamonds weren’t a thing 20 years ago when I bought natural diamonds.

Same here on the earrings! I got a lab made solitaire necklace and love it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

Have you never seen a gem?

Lab grown diamonds are real diamonds grown on a controlled environment.
They are magnificent.

Yes, I have a 2 karat edwardian piece.
The appraiser explained to me that manmade diamonds are obvious because they have no occlusions, blemishes.
When dealers are looking at diamonds thru the magnifiers, that's what they are looking for when they grade the stones.

It's weird because every time I have lunch with this one friend, she takes my earrings out of my ear and looks at them through a magnifier. It's so strange!

I think the only way people are going to "know" the diamonds aren't standard mine-sourced is if you get something that's bigger than what your friends probably think you could usually afford. So, like, if you are, say, a nonprofit writer and editor (just for a random example) and show up in diamond earrings that are like 2 carats each, people will probably think they are fake. If you get a size that seems appropriate to your station in life, no one will give it a second thought.

But to the extent that YOU care about both the vibe of having a "natural" diamond and the ethics of not contributing to the environmental and humanitarian harm of diamond mining - just get something vintage. You can have them reset if you want to.