Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It makes you realize how much less that is than it used to be.
In a nutshell. Nursing homes are 10K a month right now.
That is actually low.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It makes you realize how much less that is than it used to be.
In a nutshell. Nursing homes are 10K a month right now.
or even the third…Anonymous wrote:I felt accomplishment. I also felt a sense of security b/c as someone who was at one time poor, I know how to live on 40K and one million can theoretically provide that much income. Also, for as long as you waited to see a million, you will be so gratified to see that second one come faster.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m single, 41, net worth around $800K including home equity. I’ve always been obsessed with money but, until recently, never as good at making it as some of you here.
I should hit a $1 million net worth in about two years just through savings, or maybe in three years if the market goes down further. I’ve always viewed $1 million as a magical number. Obviously with inflation, the value of that number comes down each year, but it still seems pretty special.
Just curious to hear from all you rich people: how does life change once you get to the promised land? Do you feel a sense of relief and accomplishment? Or is it anti-climactic and just another milestone and you get back to work?
No. Still scared of ending up poor in old age. 1 million is nothing in this day and age.
This. I have $2.5M at 52 and am stressed all the time about running out if I need care.
+2. We have 2M in our mid 40’s and DH wants to tighten our belts even more, and we are already frugal.
Well, you *are* behind the OP. OP said she’ll be at $1 million by 43 and is single. You have $2 million but you’re married so you each really only have $1 million. Assuming mid-40s means 45, you’re slightly behind the OP.
No, disagree that it is linear. Plenty of costs don’t get multiplied by 2, if two people stay in a one bedroom house, utilities etc. Gas if they travel together.
It’s not that there aren’t certain economies of scale; there clearly are (e.g., one household instead of two, etc.). The issue is that you have to put up with an inferior state of living in most cases. See the relationship forum for an extensive discussion of this: marriage in the modern world is not beneficial to women unless the husband is a high earner and a 50-50 partner in house work. So you really each have $1 million, but you can create the illusion of having $2 million by accepting a lower standard of living.
It’s not unlike passive income versus active income from a job. Having a job may bring you a higher income than you could obtain from the passive income available from your portfolio, but you’re trading away your life for that higher income. There would be no comparison between someone that has $100,000 per year in passive income versus someone that earns $100,000 per year from working a job.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m single, 41, net worth around $800K including home equity. I’ve always been obsessed with money but, until recently, never as good at making it as some of you here.
I should hit a $1 million net worth in about two years just through savings, or maybe in three years if the market goes down further. I’ve always viewed $1 million as a magical number. Obviously with inflation, the value of that number comes down each year, but it still seems pretty special.
Just curious to hear from all you rich people: how does life change once you get to the promised land? Do you feel a sense of relief and accomplishment? Or is it anti-climactic and just another milestone and you get back to work?
Sorry to say, but for me it was the latter. But I never was that obsessed with money. It was more like, huh, past that amount. When I was little I thought a millionaire meant someone wearing a monocle and a top hat and having so much money it spilled out of their pants, but in reality it was like just a brief slightly shinier feeling towards a number in the Excel file (not to mention that when the market went down soon after it went below 1m again).
Same here, our lifestyle didn't change, so there was nothing to notice or celebrate. I also don't consider myself "one of the rich people" who have "made it to the promised land." UMC compared to the rest of the nation. MC for the immediate area and this board. Our net worth is the house, retirement accounts, and 529, so while we are certainly doing well compared to the average American, we are not superfluously wealthy. I suspect the PP who said $10m is the new $1m is on target. Maybe $5m if you're older and close to retirement.
My biggest worry that keeps me grinding is that my parents didn't save enough for retirement and don't understand how insanely expensive a good nursing home costs, and that we will foot some part of the costs in the future. And then when it's our turn, I want to make sure we have enough extra money saved that we can cover anything and everything with our own savings so our kids don't have to worry the way I do now.
Most people don't spend too much time in nursing homes--do you have reason to believe your parents will need it? People in my family live very long (several past 100, most mid to upper 90s) and out of all my great aunts, grandparents, great grandparents (maybe 30 elderly people in my life) only 3 needed a nursing home for longer than a month, and only one longer than a year (and under 2).
Anonymous wrote:The bar for the promise land rose to 5M when I reached the 1M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m single, 41, net worth around $800K including home equity. I’ve always been obsessed with money but, until recently, never as good at making it as some of you here.
I should hit a $1 million net worth in about two years just through savings, or maybe in three years if the market goes down further. I’ve always viewed $1 million as a magical number. Obviously with inflation, the value of that number comes down each year, but it still seems pretty special.
Just curious to hear from all you rich people: how does life change once you get to the promised land? Do you feel a sense of relief and accomplishment? Or is it anti-climactic and just another milestone and you get back to work?
No. Still scared of ending up poor in old age. 1 million is nothing in this day and age.
This. I have $2.5M at 52 and am stressed all the time about running out if I need care.
+2. We have 2M in our mid 40’s and DH wants to tighten our belts even more, and we are already frugal.
Well, you *are* behind the OP. OP said she’ll be at $1 million by 43 and is single. You have $2 million but you’re married so you each really only have $1 million. Assuming mid-40s means 45, you’re slightly behind the OP.
No, disagree that it is linear. Plenty of costs don’t get multiplied by 2, if two people stay in a one bedroom house, utilities etc. Gas if they travel together.
It’s not that there aren’t certain economies of scale; there clearly are (e.g., one household instead of two, etc.). The issue is that you have to put up with an inferior state of living in most cases. See the relationship forum for an extensive discussion of this: marriage in the modern world is not beneficial to women unless the husband is a high earner and a 50-50 partner in house work. So you really each have $1 million, but you can create the illusion of having $2 million by accepting a lower standard of living.
It’s not unlike passive income versus active income from a job. Having a job may bring you a higher income than you could obtain from the passive income available from your portfolio, but you’re trading away your life for that higher income. There would be no comparison between someone that has $100,000 per year in passive income versus someone that earns $100,000 per year from working a job.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m single, 41, net worth around $800K including home equity. I’ve always been obsessed with money but, until recently, never as good at making it as some of you here.
I should hit a $1 million net worth in about two years just through savings, or maybe in three years if the market goes down further. I’ve always viewed $1 million as a magical number. Obviously with inflation, the value of that number comes down each year, but it still seems pretty special.
Just curious to hear from all you rich people: how does life change once you get to the promised land? Do you feel a sense of relief and accomplishment? Or is it anti-climactic and just another milestone and you get back to work?
No. Still scared of ending up poor in old age. 1 million is nothing in this day and age.
This. I have $2.5M at 52 and am stressed all the time about running out if I need care.
+2. We have 2M in our mid 40’s and DH wants to tighten our belts even more, and we are already frugal.
Well, you *are* behind the OP. OP said she’ll be at $1 million by 43 and is single. You have $2 million but you’re married so you each really only have $1 million. Assuming mid-40s means 45, you’re slightly behind the OP.
No, disagree that it is linear. Plenty of costs don’t get multiplied by 2, if two people stay in a one bedroom house, utilities etc. Gas if they travel together.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m single, 41, net worth around $800K including home equity. I’ve always been obsessed with money but, until recently, never as good at making it as some of you here.
I should hit a $1 million net worth in about two years just through savings, or maybe in three years if the market goes down further. I’ve always viewed $1 million as a magical number. Obviously with inflation, the value of that number comes down each year, but it still seems pretty special.
Just curious to hear from all you rich people: how does life change once you get to the promised land? Do you feel a sense of relief and accomplishment? Or is it anti-climactic and just another milestone and you get back to work?
No. Still scared of ending up poor in old age. 1 million is nothing in this day and age.
This. I have $2.5M at 52 and am stressed all the time about running out if I need care.
+2. We have 2M in our mid 40’s and DH wants to tighten our belts even more, and we are already frugal.
Well, you *are* behind the OP. OP said she’ll be at $1 million by 43 and is single. You have $2 million but you’re married so you each really only have $1 million. Assuming mid-40s means 45, you’re slightly behind the OP.