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Anonymous wrote:The requirements ( research, shadowing, grades, high MCATs, volunteering and a good story) have not changed persay but the levels have changed. At my T10 institution, we now interview candidates who are named authors ( not first or last but named) in major journals ( not just those that did research and presented at regional meetings), in addition to significant shadowing with EMT experience and in gap years doing pretty amazing things that I did not do as a med school applicant years ago.
The most important variable IMHO is the story- why the candidate wants to go to medical school and how the application supports their story. This is the one thing that has not changed over the years..

I think people like you are part of the problem. What is wrong with young adults want to become doctors because... it's what they want? The reasoning behind "why" becomes more extreme because the applicants believe it can't be vanilla flavor...

Yet so many are vanilla applicants from wealthy, privileged homes. Are they gaming the system by claiming asexual status to stand out?

That should work against them per top 10 institution PP

Don't docs know lots of Latin, lol!

Anonymous wrote:The requirements ( research, shadowing, grades, high MCATs, volunteering and a good story) have not changed persay but the levels have changed. At my T10 institution, we now interview candidates who are named authors ( not first or last but named) in major journals ( not just those that did research and presented at regional meetings), in addition to significant shadowing with EMT experience and in gap years doing pretty amazing things that I did not do as a med school applicant years ago.
The most important variable IMHO is the story- why the candidate wants to go to medical school and how the application supports their story. This is the one thing that has not changed over the years..

Doubtful.

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Anonymous wrote:The requirements ( research, shadowing, grades, high MCATs, volunteering and a good story) have not changed persay but the levels have changed. At my T10 institution, we now interview candidates who are named authors ( not first or last but named) in major journals ( not just those that did research and presented at regional meetings), in addition to significant shadowing with EMT experience and in gap years doing pretty amazing things that I did not do as a med school applicant years ago.
The most important variable IMHO is the story- why the candidate wants to go to medical school and how the application supports their story. This is the one thing that has not changed over the years..

I think people like you are part of the problem. What is wrong with young adults want to become doctors because... it's what they want? The reasoning behind "why" becomes more extreme because the applicants believe it can't be vanilla flavor...

Yet so many are vanilla applicants from wealthy, privileged homes. Are they gaming the system by claiming asexual status to stand out?

Anonymous wrote:The requirements ( research, shadowing, grades, high MCATs, volunteering and a good story) have not changed persay but the levels have changed. At my T10 institution, we now interview candidates who are named authors ( not first or last but named) in major journals ( not just those that did research and presented at regional meetings), in addition to significant shadowing with EMT experience and in gap years doing pretty amazing things that I did not do as a med school applicant years ago.
The most important variable IMHO is the story- why the candidate wants to go to medical school and how the application supports their story. This is the one thing that has not changed over the years..

I think people like you are part of the problem. What is wrong with young adults want to become doctors because... it's what they want? The reasoning behind "why" becomes more extreme because the applicants believe it can't be vanilla flavor...

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Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare and I’m curious to see how this plays out. I wonder if these college kids who are trying so desperately hard to get into medical school really understand what they are signing up for, and what their reasons are. Most doctors don’t have remotely glamorous jobs and the highly paid fields are years and years of additional training. Healthcare feels broken on the inside just like it does on the outside and the burnout rate is high. I hope these kids find what they are looking for in a career but…I do wonder.

+1

It seems like many are looking for the degree snd jobs where they’ll never have to see actual patients.

Work as an EMT. Join the military. Thousands upon thousands of hours of research and shadowing.

Anonymous wrote:Just become an NP or PA. They can do everything a doctor can do with none of the intensity of the prerequisites.

I've worked and precepted NPs and PAs for many years. In general they are good at what they do but they lack a deep understanding of pathophysiology and treatment. NP training, in particular, is not standardized such that you can get a NP degree with minimal clinical hours and patient contact.

Anonymous wrote:There are many wonderful things to do other than becoming a doctor. The job is a lifelong grind. If premed is not enjoyable, I would encourage your kids to find something that is.

I agree there are other wonderful things to do in you life but disagree that it is a lifelong grind. Medicine is never boring, always changing, and patient care is gratifying. Premed is nothing like practicing medicine. Its just a rite of passage.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many wonderful things to do other than becoming a doctor. The job is a lifelong grind. If premed is not enjoyable, I would encourage your kids to find something that is.

The most secure job there is. You can make a 6-figure salary for the rest of your life once you become an attending.

The same kids should be able to do this in many other fields, especially one they enjoy.

Not sure what other fields you’re talking about. That’s not the case in tech or finance.

Smart kids have lots of options.

None with the job security that medicine provides.

You are correct. It allows someone to do the same job for the rest of their life.

Which is a good thing.

If you say so!

Both of you STFU

You’re a pleasant one. Just get out of prison?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many wonderful things to do other than becoming a doctor. The job is a lifelong grind. If premed is not enjoyable, I would encourage your kids to find something that is.

The most secure job there is. You can make a 6-figure salary for the rest of your life once you become an attending.

The same kids should be able to do this in many other fields, especially one they enjoy.

Not sure what other fields you’re talking about. That’s not the case in tech or finance.

Smart kids have lots of options.

None with the job security that medicine provides.

You are correct. It allows someone to do the same job for the rest of their life.

Which is a good thing.

If you say so!

Both of you STFU

The requirements ( research, shadowing, grades, high MCATs, volunteering and a good story) have not changed persay but the levels have changed. At my T10 institution, we now interview candidates who are named authors ( not first or last but named) in major journals ( not just those that did research and presented at regional meetings), in addition to significant shadowing with EMT experience and in gap years doing pretty amazing things that I did not do as a med school applicant years ago.
The most important variable IMHO is the story- why the candidate wants to go to medical school and how the application supports their story. This is the one thing that has not changed over the years..

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare and I’m curious to see how this plays out. I wonder if these college kids who are trying so desperately hard to get into medical school really understand what they are signing up for, and what their reasons are. Most doctors don’t have remotely glamorous jobs and the highly paid fields are years and years of additional training. Healthcare feels broken on the inside just like it does on the outside and the burnout rate is high. I hope these kids find what they are looking for in a career but…I do wonder.

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I work in healthcare and I’m curious to see how this plays out. I wonder if these college kids who are trying so desperately hard to get into medical school really understand what they are signing up for, and what their reasons are. Most doctors don’t have remotely glamorous jobs and the highly paid fields are years and years of additional training. Healthcare feels broken on the inside just like it does on the outside and the burnout rate is high. I hope these kids find what they are looking for in a career but…I do wonder.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many wonderful things to do other than becoming a doctor. The job is a lifelong grind. If premed is not enjoyable, I would encourage your kids to find something that is.

The most secure job there is. You can make a 6-figure salary for the rest of your life once you become an attending.

The same kids should be able to do this in many other fields, especially one they enjoy.

Not sure what other fields you’re talking about. That’s not the case in tech or finance.

Smart kids have lots of options.

None with the job security that medicine provides.

You are correct. It allows someone to do the same job for the rest of their life.

Which is a good thing.

If you say so!