Anonymous
03/18/2023 17:31
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Can’t wait til you see Tucker Carlson’s piece on the Tour of The US Capitol.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 17:23
Subject: Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
This is crazy. I am going to see Parade next weekend. I am sure it is not 100% historically accurate either (although it is sadly still relevant). It is art. A lot of musicals are based on other things (I once heard Sondheim say that is because a musical involves so much collaboration between person doing the book and the person doing the music/lyrics so it is easier if they have a common point of reference).
Anonymous
03/18/2023 17:00
Subject: Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:I’m bothered by Little Shop of Horrors. I mean, plants don’t act like that!
You have not met my ficus.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 16:59
Subject: Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:Why lie though? It's common knowledge some of this stuff and easily researched.
Don't call it Hamilton then, just some historicalally inaccurate musical.
I enjoy lots of fiction but the way some people cling to this as educational is crazy.
A PP above you already has an excellent response to you so I'm copying that post here:
"Having kids compare and contrast a musical they loved with the real historical record is a great intellectual exercise. OP, you're asking entertainment to do all the effort of educating your kids instead of understanding that it's a great starting point for reflection, analysis, debate, etc."
+1 to that.
"Why lie though?" PP above: I think you don't get that an artist's interpretation of a real event or person is not a "lie." A book or documentary or news article intentionally fabricating or embellishing things would be lying. A musical, a play, a novel or short story or poem or song, using real things to riff off them -- that's not lying. Have you ever read historical fiction? You likely would point to that and say it's a lie, to you. It just isn't. Nor is this musical, or (as someone noted much earlier) "The Sound of Music" etc. Do you go to many plays or musicals, read fiction, or watch any TV or movies set in real historical times and involving fictionalized versions of real people? Surely those would be stuffed with what you'd call lies, if you think Hamilton's a lie.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 16:39
Subject: Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Why lie though? It's common knowledge some of this stuff and easily researched.
Don't call it Hamilton then, just some historicalally inaccurate musical.
I enjoy lots of fiction but the way some people cling to this as educational is crazy.
Don't call it Hamilton then, just some historicalally inaccurate musical.
I enjoy lots of fiction but the way some people cling to this as educational is crazy.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 15:28
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
I thought OP was talking about the college!
Anonymous
03/18/2023 15:14
Subject: Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
I’m bothered by Little Shop of Horrors. I mean, plants don’t act like that!
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:50
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Having kids compare and contrast a musical they loved with the real historical record is a great intellectual exercise. OP, you're asking entertainment to do all the effort of educating your kids instead of understanding that it's a great starting point for reflection, analysis, debate, etc.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:46
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wanted to enjoy Les Miserables but the musical didn’t depict the Paris Uprising accurately, so it was trash.
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+1
I wanted to enjoy The King and I but I felt it didn't realistically portray Anna Leonowens' experience teaching in Siam. And it really bothered me that Yul Brynner wasn't Siamese, let alone royalty.
https://theculturetrip.com/asia/thailand/articles/the-real-thai-story-of-the-king-and-i/
Oops
Left of the /s
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:45
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:I wanted to enjoy Les Miserables but the musical didn’t depict the Paris Uprising accurately, so it was trash.
/s
+1
I wanted to enjoy The King and I but I felt it didn't realistically portray Anna Leonowens' experience teaching in Siam. And it really bothered me that Yul Brynner wasn't Siamese, let alone royalty.
https://theculturetrip.com/asia/thailand/articles/the-real-thai-story-of-the-king-and-i/
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:37
Subject: Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:Uh, you are at least 5 years late to the party, OP
+1. I thought this thread was revived from 2015. But, no!
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:18
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:My kids love Hamilton and it has actually been a great way for us to learn. Knowing that many aspects of the musical were inaccurate or sensationalized for the purpose of entertainment made me get a bunch of books that we could read together about Hamilton’s life, the founding fathers etc. I also got books about life for regular people/kids during the early days of America, which were super interesting for them. Now my kids (5 and 7) point out the inaccuracies when we listen to the songs or watch clips. The musical set in motion a great journey of learning for us. I realized I find the debates the founding fathers had super interesting, and I’ve been able to share what I’ve learned with my kids and explain how we are still debating things like state’s rights vs power of fed govt. We have also made family trips to Mt Vernon, Monticello etc. I can’t imagine that they would have had such a sustained interest in these topics and history without the songs, etc.
Lol I am sure your kids are really absorbing all of this at ages 5 anf 7.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:17
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:The bio in the show is not that far off by any means and spurred many people on to read more about it.
It is incredible that a man of such humble origins rose to write the vast majority of the federalist papers among many other achievements of historic note.
This story was presented so creatively and with such a diverse cast that it drew in an audience who normally would not be terribly interested in early Smerican history.
There was so much genius and creativity throughout the show.
https://www.radiotimes.com/audio/the-true-story-behind-hip-hop-musical-hamilton/
Exactly. Totally brilliant.
Anonymous
03/18/2023 13:15
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
Anonymous wrote:I wanted to enjoy Les Miserables but the musical didn’t depict the Paris Uprising accurately, so it was trash.
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Anonymous
03/18/2023 12:37
Subject: Re:Hamilton historically and accurate and a letdown
I wanted to enjoy Les Miserables but the musical didn’t depict the Paris Uprising accurately, so it was trash.
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