Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 16:11     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats decided they no longer cared about blue collar union workers. Those workers are voting republican now


Which makes no sense since the GOP hasn't met a union it didn't want to bust.


And democrats haven't seen a steel mill or a coal mine that they didn't want to regulate out of existence. That's before we get to NAFTA (kind of surprising that the party who is supposedly pro-labor is also the anti-protectionist party) or non-economic issues


You mean the steel mills that didn't update their production methods and the coal mines that slowly killed their workers while having them live in abject poverty? That wasn't the Democrats.



And Hillary offered to retrain them but they felt entitled to continue the with the work they’d always done and their daddy did before them. They preferred the man who told them what they wanted to hear (lies)
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 16:10     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:This is a super interesting and legit question in the culture bucket

Now imagine asking it about some non white group



All the blacks, etc. in the DAR and on the Mayflower?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 16:06     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:Can we stop “othering” people? It’s not a good look no matter who’s doing it.


Don’t be a buzzkill, it’s not a “look” at all
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 16:05     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
This is a super interesting and legit question in the culture bucket

Now imagine asking it about some non white group

Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:58     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.


And that's exactly what the GOP has tapped into and promoted - that the "other" is responsible for their miserable lives.


Which is justified.


Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:54     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.


And that's exactly what the GOP has tapped into and promoted - that the "other" is responsible for their miserable lives.


Yes, true. They're angry because someone's "taking," or has already taken, something from them... and they're right, someone has... but it's not blacks, or Mexicans, or drag queens. It's American corporatism (a shout-out to the Kochs!)

The GOP plays these poor donkeys like fiddles. As but one example, they hate(d) the effort of "Obamacare" to deliver universal coverage, but struggle with health bills, go without treatment.... etc. etc. etc.

Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:53     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:Dem’s NAFTA, globalization, unfettered illegal immigration and affirmative action.

Reagan started NAFTA. Bush continued to push for it, Clinton signed it.

Google "maquiladora" program and Reagan.

-former R
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:50     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Dem’s NAFTA, globalization, unfettered illegal immigration and affirmative action.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:49     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.


And that's exactly what the GOP has tapped into and promoted - that the "other" is responsible for their miserable lives.


Which is justified.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:47     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.


And that's exactly what the GOP has tapped into and promoted - that the "other" is responsible for their miserable lives.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:46     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.



+1 the WASPY people I knew from Connecticut or the Boston suburbs were more Rockefeller Republicans, Romney-to-Clinton voters. Now voting Biden.


Absolutely.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:46     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.



+1 the WASPY people I knew from Connecticut or the Boston suburbs were more Rockefeller Republicans, Romney-to-Clinton voters. Now voting Biden.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:45     Subject: Re:Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the groups you mentioned tend to be LMC and are sick of being called “privileged” and “trashy.”


This is the answer. It’s a class thing.

+1 and education, which correlates to class.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:43     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?



Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2023 15:14     Subject: Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
Anonymous wrote:The "spicy whites," Jews, Italians, Greeks who have historically had only conditional "whiteness" in this country and, thus, formed the backbone of the old left are sadly leeching into the Republican party in greater numbers, and have done, since Reagan. Part of this is fundamentalism in religion that is making these communities more religious and more rightward - just like America as a whole, and part of it is the conversion of America into a service-based economy, etc.


It’s not just religion

Mormons are more serious about their religion than spicy whites but a ton of mormons are not maga and lo and behold happen to be dar/mayflower vintage (Mormons track their genealogy really closely).