Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 16:26     Subject: Re:Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between regular geometry and honors geometry?


Here's the MCPS info:

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/high/geometry

The "Unit" links go to docs like this:

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/curriculum/math/high/geometry/parent-website.ccss.geometry.unit1.instructionalfocus.pdf

Those docs mention (a few) (tiny) enhancements for Honors, such as:

Law of Sines and Cosines (preview of Precalc)

Graphing the Ellipse and Hyperbola (preview of Algebra 2)
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 11:25     Subject: Re:Summer Geometry
What is the difference between regular geometry and honors geometry?
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 20:46     Subject: Summer Geometry
Summer school is 3 weeks for an 18 week class. It's "the same" as regular school, but it's all in one subject, bingeing until you puke, with no time to let it stew in the back of your head.

If you already studied geometry, are good to summer school for a retake or to get that official stamp of approval, go for it.


Otherwise, OP, study AOPS/Magnet topics like counting, probability, number theory, or AOPS Honors algebra, for enrichment.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 17:46     Subject: Summer Geometry
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


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DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling


OP here, I am worries too and actually prefer him to take some fun activities over the summer, but he insisted and said he think he can handle it…. It is because of his circle of friends mostly plan to take it. No joke it is 6 weeks with 6 hours daily worth of studying. He might change his mind .. I dont know


If he can’t handle that he’ll never handle college.


There is a big difference between studying 6 hours a day in college and the summer you are 13. By the way, I never studied six hours per day in college. Or law school for that matter.


You’ve never had more than 6 hours of classes per day??? 6 hours per day is about the same as a regular school day.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 12:25     Subject: Summer Geometry
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, college admissions-wise it basically just frees up an additional class slot in 12th grade (everything else is just shifted forward 1 year). If you're going to take an additional AP class in 12th, technically that could increase GPA some tiny fraction by adding an additional 5 into the mix (rather than a 4 or more likely a 4.5) but since it's 12th it won't have much impact before decisions are made. And you want to ensure that class in 12th is something that supports the "took the most rigorous course load possible" narrative. But really, we're talking pretty negligible delta here, this isn't going to be the thing that tips the scales for a kid to get admit vs. WL/reject.

I'd focus more on the school/academic experience. If your kid is really sooooooo bored in class that it's diminishing their interest in math AND you think that one academic year speedup is the silver bullet to resolve this concern, I suppose, go ahead... but with the caveat that you're aware of the warnings that plenty of kids who do this who end up in a bad spot later on in advanced math (when their fundamentals aren't as strong as they should be). Just because a kid "can" handle it right now doesn't mean they "should".


+1 lots of accelerated math students start hating math when it gets too hard too fast. Be careful because it backfires for many.


+1
DS took geometry over the summer .. dropped the class after he found it to be hard. Now he HATES geometry. Please think twice before enrolling


OP here, I am worries too and actually prefer him to take some fun activities over the summer, but he insisted and said he think he can handle it…. It is because of his circle of friends mostly plan to take it. No joke it is 6 weeks with 6 hours daily worth of studying. He might change his mind .. I dont know


If he can’t handle that he’ll never handle college.


There is a big difference between studying 6 hours a day in college and the summer you are 13. By the way, I never studied six hours per day in college. Or law school for that matter.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 12:19     Subject: Summer Geometry
To be clear, if your child has time, interest, and ability to learn Geom outside of school, and you want to unblock Alg 2 a year earlier than current pace, summer Geometry class is an effective way to get official credit and unblock Algebra 2.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 09:58     Subject: Summer Geometry
OP here, thanks for all of the advise. DC is reconsider now.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 09:42     Subject: Summer Geometry
I agree I wouldn’t do a formal class. Just do a geometry class on outschool for the sake of enjoyment and exposure, but not for school credit.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2023 09:09     Subject: Summer Geometry
IMO summer geometry is bad by itself because it’s too compressed in time. But it’s often the best option available. Better would be doubling up on math courses during the year, and doing Health or some other non academic req. Or doing home study before and after summer geometry for prep and review.

And it’s important in AAP convos to remember that counselor advice that is good for 95% of students is not good for 95% of AAP students.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 15:12     Subject: Summer Geometry
DC did FCPS summer online Geometry Honors. Did very well and continued to do well in Honors math classes. Other DC tried summer geometry H and dropped it because the pace was too fast (and particular teacher was neurotic). That child did well in geometry honors taken during the school year.

All of the FCPS counselors discouraged summer geometry. I can see how it can work for some students but not others. Some kids do better and can handle the fast pace of summer school courses.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2023 22:34     Subject: Re:Summer Geometry
Anonymous wrote:If DC takes geometry in 9th grade then how DC’s high school math looks like. Does DC’s chances of getting into top 20 college goes down?

Not necessarily, if they shine in other things.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2023 22:14     Subject: Summer Geometry
"If you child has an intense interest, just dont."

Should read

"Unless If you child has an intense interest, just dont."
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2023 22:13     Subject: Summer Geometry
I would strongly suggest not doing summer geometry unless the kid eats, breathes and sleeps math.

The course itself is very well designed. I am surprised at how comprehensive it is. DC took it, but then we have to hide math books from DC so other things would get some attention. If you child has an intense interest, just dont.

It takes good 6-8 hours each and every day. There are quizes every day. Tests almost every alternate day.

You dont want to kill their interest in math for life just to accelerate one level in math. Not worth it at all.