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Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

Because every place wants adults with open schedules now. How is this even a question? Go to Walmart, CVS, Target, any retail clothing store. It’s all adults. They don’t want kids there any more.

Not the PP but that is not true at all. I see plenty of young kids in all of those locations.

I call BS. I rarely see teenagers at the retail places anymore. Where I grew up, you could go into any retail place, any restaurant . . . and you'd know many of the people working there. I worked at hotels, grocery stores, restaurants and was always working with peers. Not only do I not see that here, none of my kids' friends are doing these things. They are lifeguards, tutoring, babysitting/nannying, mowing lawns, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

I went to high school in the 90s. Most of my friends that had jobs either were not involved in sports or other activities, or they had some "cushy" job that they got because their mom was best friends with the manager or something.

This. The demands on me were not nearly the same level that are present for my child. Not even close.

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t he work afternoons or nights?

I mean my kids all work during high school too. How do they have spending money if they aren’t working?

10-15hrs a week during high school
20-30hrs during summer
10hrs a week during college

A lovely thought but it is not always possible. First two weeks of August has two a days for my DC. Plus weekend volunteering and fundraising, and team building. They are mandatory.

Then practice after school until 530/600, plus games. Sometimes Sat. practices. This goes through October. So, no, it's not possible for all athletes, esp. if they have honors/AP classes on top of htat.

Anonymous wrote:"They are also generally not involved in extracurriculars besides working. "

Huh?! Who do you think is on the football field every Friday night? Who is in the stands and marching on the field? Who is the student body president? Of course poor kids do extracurriculars.

All of the kids doing the things you listed skewed affluent at my economically diverse high school. There are exceptions of course, and I wasn’t making a character judgement (poorer kids work out of necessity).

"They are also generally not involved in extracurriculars besides working. "

Huh?! Who do you think is on the football field every Friday night? Who is in the stands and marching on the field? Who is the student body president? Of course poor kids do extracurriculars.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

Because every place wants adults with open schedules now. How is this even a question? Go to Walmart, CVS, Target, any retail clothing store. It’s all adults. They don’t want kids there any more.

Not the PP but that is not true at all. I see plenty of young kids in all of those locations.

The median age of big-box retail workers is over 30, statistically.

A lot of the people you see working in those places, especially if you visit one while traveling, are people who would’ve been working in American factories if they were coming of age 40 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

I went to high school in the 90s. Most of my friends that had jobs either were not involved in sports or other activities, or they had some "cushy" job that they got because their mom was best friends with the manager or something.

Sports were not as intense for most of us in HS. I worked at McDonald’s for about two years, and then a candy store. At McDonald’s, I only worked on the weekends. The adults who worked there loved it - they could get their hours in during the week (when they’re kids were in school), and then the high school kids worked the evening/weekend shifts. However, this was before McD’s was open 24 hours.

My teen got hired last summer at a restaurant near our house as a busboy/host. He and the manager realized a few days into his training that it didn't really make sense to invest in training him since he would be leaving in 10 weeks. They paid him for the three days of training he'd done and everyone moved on. He got a great merit scholarship at his school and honestly, we didn't need for him to have college savings. So, I told him to just blanket the neighborhood with fliers advertising his handy-kid services and he picked up about $1,200 doing random odd jobs for the neighbors. The experience of literally walking up and down the commercial strip near our house and landing a good job really worked wonders on his confidence level, even if it only lasted for a few days. LOL! He had no concerns about job hunting once he got to his college campus and got one right away.

Anonymous wrote:This is what comes from sending your kids to a rich kid school. Poor kid schools know that kids need to work. Its not a problem at our socio-economically diverse school.

And unfortunately, poor kids generally get worse grades and are less likely to complete college. They are also generally not involved in extracurriculars besides working. So what is your point?

Your kids need to get a part time job NOW, before the school year ends. That way they don't have to worry about explaining that they'll only be there for 8 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

Because every place wants adults with open schedules now. How is this even a question? Go to Walmart, CVS, Target, any retail clothing store. It’s all adults. They don’t want kids there any more.

Not the PP but that is not true at all. I see plenty of young kids in all of those locations.

They may look like young kids, but, in reality, the "young kids" are likely all 19, 20, and older.

+1 I chat with clerks at CVS and Walgreens; they are all in college, not high school students.

Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

I went to high school in the 90s. Most of my friends that had jobs either were not involved in sports or other activities, or they had some "cushy" job that they got because their mom was best friends with the manager or something.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

Because every place wants adults with open schedules now. How is this even a question? Go to Walmart, CVS, Target, any retail clothing store. It’s all adults. They don’t want kids there any more.

Not the PP but that is not true at all. I see plenty of young kids in all of those locations.

They may look like young kids, but, in reality, the "young kids" are likely all 19, 20, and older.

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Anonymous wrote:band in summer does not take all day or the weekend.

he can work in the evening or on the weekend.

I'm not the OP but band at our school has a very intense schedule that is different every day and varies week to week as well. There are weeks where it is 3.5 hours a break and then back for another 3 hours. There is no way to predict the schedule ahead of time.

I’m the OP and yes, possibly same school, it’s pretty much 9-9 everyday that needs to be available M-F. So maybe one weekend shift but you’re pretty tired so would want them to have at least one day off.

Please list the school that works bans members for 12 hour days. Give me a break LOL

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did all of us work as teens in high school, but yours suddenly can not. Generally curious.

Because every place wants adults with open schedules now. How is this even a question? Go to Walmart, CVS, Target, any retail clothing store. It’s all adults. They don’t want kids there any more.

Not the PP but that is not true at all. I see plenty of young kids in all of those locations.