Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.

I think you're going to be another very disappointed and shocked parent if this is what you actually believe.

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Both of my kids got in and both had below 3.5 and 1250

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.

I think you're going to be another very disappointed and shocked parent if this is what you actually believe.

Well said.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.

I think you're going to be another very disappointed and shocked parent if this is what you actually believe.

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Anonymous wrote:Listing the VA public Us by median GPA (from SCHEV), Only UVA, W&M, VT have medians above 4.0. Although VT's is impacted a lot by higher GPA for engineering admits so outside of that I'd say it falls with the big "middle-sh" group that has medians in the 3.7-3.8 range.

UVA 4.4
W&M 4.33



VT 4.04
JMU 3.88
CNU 3.78
GMU 3.76
UMW 3.73
VCU 3.73
VMI 3.70
Longwood 3.69

UVA Wise 3.55
ODU 3.40
Radford 3.40

Virginia State 3.03
Norfolk State 3.01

What a strange place to put the gap—see correction above

VT should get its own line with a gap on either side. You are going to need the WM/UVA scores to get into engineering /CS and other hardcore STEM. You will be fine with JMU/CNU scores for less popular humanities. So, it could really go one either tier. All depends on the major applying for.

Not really. Look at their own website/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.

I think you're going to be another very disappointed and shocked parent if this is what you actually believe.

m

Both of my kids got in and both had below 3.5 and 1250

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listing the VA public Us by median GPA (from SCHEV), Only UVA, W&M, VT have medians above 4.0. Although VT's is impacted a lot by higher GPA for engineering admits so outside of that I'd say it falls with the big "middle-sh" group that has medians in the 3.7-3.8 range.

UVA 4.4
W&M 4.33



VT 4.04
JMU 3.88
CNU 3.78
GMU 3.76
UMW 3.73
VCU 3.73
VMI 3.70
Longwood 3.69

UVA Wise 3.55
ODU 3.40
Radford 3.40

Virginia State 3.03
Norfolk State 3.01

What a strange place to put the gap—see correction above

VT should get its own line with a gap on either side. You are going to need the WM/UVA scores to get into engineering /CS and other hardcore STEM. You will be fine with JMU/CNU scores for less popular humanities. So, it could really go one either tier. All depends on the major applying for.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.

I think you're going to be another very disappointed and shocked parent if this is what you actually believe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is not "middle-ish"

But plenty of kids just like OPs kid get into VT and JMU.

VT weighted GPA is 4.03, so 50% are below and 50% above, SATs 25-75% range is around 1200-1400
JMU's weighted GPA mean is 3.69, and SATs 25-75% is around 1160-1340

So stats-wise VT is a tougher admit than JMU, but both are doable for kids who get mainly As and some Bs in a generally rigorous courseload. Both are test optional too, and rank SATs as only considered, whereas for instance they are "very important" at W&M. (UVA puts SATs as only "considered" but they primarily accept high ones and over 75% of students submit scores--their 25-75% range is 1400-1510 so it seems to be a bit disingenuous on their part)

VT cares a lot about supplemental essays--so look ahead and put effort there if that's the first choice. Because it's popular, you can't guarantee an admit, but as long as your stats are in their range you have a good a chance as anyone. Higher stats don't seem to give you a higher chance for them--they are looking for something else. JMU seems to be more the case that if your stats are in their range, you will very likely be accepted. Males have a slightly easier acceptance at JMU.

Ugh you were the one hijacking and going on and on and on about supplemental essays at Tech on the other thread. TLDR. Tighten it up!

Do females have an easier time getting into Tech (non-engineering?)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is not "middle-ish"

But plenty of kids just like OPs kid get into VT and JMU.

VT weighted GPA is 4.03, so 50% are below and 50% above, SATs 25-75% range is around 1200-1400
JMU's weighted GPA mean is 3.69, and SATs 25-75% is around 1160-1340

So stats-wise VT is a tougher admit than JMU, but both are doable for kids who get mainly As and some Bs in a generally rigorous courseload. Both are test optional too, and rank SATs as only considered, whereas for instance they are "very important" at W&M. (UVA puts SATs as only "considered" but they primarily accept high ones and over 75% of students submit scores--their 25-75% range is 1400-1510 so it seems to be a bit disingenuous on their part)

VT cares a lot about supplemental essays--so look ahead and put effort there if that's the first choice. Because it's popular, you can't guarantee an admit, but as long as your stats are in their range you have a good a chance as anyone. Higher stats don't seem to give you a higher chance for them--they are looking for something else. JMU seems to be more the case that if your stats are in their range, you will very likely be accepted. Males have a slightly easier acceptance at JMU.

Ugh you were the one hijacking and going on and on and on about supplemental essays at Tech on the other thread. TLDR. Tighten it up!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.

Probably not an easy admit for biology and some other sciences. Lots of pre-med, pre-pharmacy, pre-vet and pre-physician’s assistant grade-focused students.

Can you not be undecided when applying? Or, once accepted, how hard is it to change majors to something more in demand?

You can apply undecided aka "university studies". You can also apply to an undecided major within a college, e.g. "Exploring Science" within the College of Science. But "University Studies" has a pretty low acceptance rate.

My DS applied to University Studies and was denied. In hindsight, I think he should have picked something like History or English and then switched majors if needed. I’ve heard several people say that University Studies has low acceptance. Does anyone have stats on this?

Anonymous wrote:Kid tests well and is an athlete and has A- avg in honors/IB.
He’s a sophomore and summers are traveling, swimming, lifeguard and technique coach.
Single mom here who has been hands off with school and with no time, energy, or money to make him do anything besides band and sport.
Will after school clubs or community service matter at all if he doesn’t do them?
We’re in NoVa at DCUM “bad” high school but with a sizable peer group.
Can kids like this get into JMU? Tech?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listing the VA public Us by median GPA (from SCHEV), Only UVA, W&M, VT have medians above 4.0. Although VT's is impacted a lot by higher GPA for engineering admits so outside of that I'd say it falls with the big "middle-sh" group that has medians in the 3.7-3.8 range.

UVA 4.4
W&M 4.33



VT 4.04
JMU 3.88
CNU 3.78
GMU 3.76
UMW 3.73
VCU 3.73
VMI 3.70
Longwood 3.69

UVA Wise 3.55
ODU 3.40
Radford 3.40

Virginia State 3.03
Norfolk State 3.01

What a strange place to put the gap—see correction above

Anonymous wrote:VT is middle-ish for everything except engineering and CS. There may be a few other competitive, niche programs, but your son will do fine applying to the school’s general program.