Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 20:03     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here! thanks to all who commented. You offered a lot of interesting perspectives - certainly we do not wish to "pigeon hole" DS into business at the ripe old age of 14, we just want to support his interests and help build towards his goals for higher education. The comments regarding economics v business for undergrad are worth considering, and we'll add this to our list. similarly, I was surprised that some of the top business grad programs do not have UG business programs (vanderbilt, duke). Food for thought before we plunk down $$$ in a few years.
thanks again!


Most top business graduate programs don’t offer it at the undergraduate level. Btw, Duke and Vanderbilt are not top tier in business.

Isn't Michigan a M7?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 19:44     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
What about University of Maryland? I keep hearing how it’s highly ranked and hard to gain admission to.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 19:05     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:OP here! thanks to all who commented. You offered a lot of interesting perspectives - certainly we do not wish to "pigeon hole" DS into business at the ripe old age of 14, we just want to support his interests and help build towards his goals for higher education. The comments regarding economics v business for undergrad are worth considering, and we'll add this to our list. similarly, I was surprised that some of the top business grad programs do not have UG business programs (vanderbilt, duke). Food for thought before we plunk down $$$ in a few years.
thanks again!


Most top business graduate programs don’t offer it at the undergraduate level. Btw, Duke and Vanderbilt are not top tier in business.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 19:03     Subject: top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:So many dimwits on this thread who clearly don’t even work in business. A top-10 degree in essentially any major will get you farther than an “undergrad business” degree. The notable exception to this is Penn Wharton. This is not remotely a novel concept.



Oh, so now you’re saying top ten. Before it was top 20. Let’s make it top 5 while we’re at it. Dimwit!
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 16:13     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
OP here! thanks to all who commented. You offered a lot of interesting perspectives - certainly we do not wish to "pigeon hole" DS into business at the ripe old age of 14, we just want to support his interests and help build towards his goals for higher education. The comments regarding economics v business for undergrad are worth considering, and we'll add this to our list. similarly, I was surprised that some of the top business grad programs do not have UG business programs (vanderbilt, duke). Food for thought before we plunk down $$$ in a few years.
thanks again!
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 16:00     Subject: top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:So many dimwits on this thread who clearly don’t even work in business. A top-10 degree in essentially any major will get you farther than an “undergrad business” degree. The notable exception to this is Penn Wharton. This is not remotely a novel concept.


+1.

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 15:57     Subject: top business programs for UG, public and private
So many dimwits on this thread who clearly don’t even work in business. A top-10 degree in essentially any major will get you farther than an “undergrad business” degree. The notable exception to this is Penn Wharton. This is not remotely a novel concept.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 13:22     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn
MIT
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Berkeley
UCLA
USC
UVA
UMich

That is my kid’s rough list.


UCLA only offers ECon, not business undergrad. Publics are not direct admit, your kid will need to apply to the biz program after sophomore year at Mich and UVA which is why mine crossed those off the list. UT Austin has strong program and for some strong students direct admit. Too, Rice just added a full biz major I believe.

But overall a good list. Next level down would be

Emory
BC
Villanova
UMiami




Michigan has direct admit. Unless your child attended college a few years ago, your information is outdated.


Are you sure you researched Michigan? Ross is a three year program. That means you applied after your freshman year, not sophomore. In any case, most students are direct admits to Ross. It’s been that way for over 5 years

https://www.michigandaily.com/news/ross-aims-increase-number-pre-admits/
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 13:16     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn
MIT
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Berkeley
UCLA
USC
UVA
UMich

That is my kid’s rough list.


UCLA only offers ECon, not business undergrad. Publics are not direct admit, your kid will need to apply to the biz program after sophomore year at Mich and UVA which is why mine crossed those off the list. UT Austin has strong program and for some strong students direct admit. Too, Rice just added a full biz major I believe.

But overall a good list. Next level down would be

Emory
BC
Villanova
UMiami




Michigan has direct admit. Unless your child attended college a few years ago, your information is outdated.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 12:52     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn
MIT
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Berkeley
UCLA
USC
UVA
UMich

That is my kid’s rough list.


UCLA only offers ECon, not business undergrad. Publics are not direct admit, your kid will need to apply to the biz program after sophomore year at Mich and UVA which is why mine crossed those off the list. UT Austin has strong program and for some strong students direct admit. Too, Rice just added a full biz major I believe.

But overall a good list. Next level down would be

Emory
BC
Villanova
UMiami



Emory business is ranked 13, the same as Georgetown. Certainly the same level. You're using Emory to try to elevate the other 2nd tier schools you mentioned.

+1 Umiami and Villanova aren't even 3rd tier, PP is either misinformed or just rude.
USnews
Emory, Georgetown, Notre dame- 13

BC-30

UMiami, Villanova- 64
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 12:20     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn
MIT
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Berkeley
UCLA
USC
UVA
UMich

That is my kid’s rough list.


UCLA only offers ECon, not business undergrad. Publics are not direct admit, your kid will need to apply to the biz program after sophomore year at Mich and UVA which is why mine crossed those off the list. UT Austin has strong program and for some strong students direct admit. Too, Rice just added a full biz major I believe.

But overall a good list. Next level down would be

Emory
BC
Villanova
UMiami



Emory business is ranked 13, the same as Georgetown. Certainly the same level. You're using Emory to try to elevate the other 2nd tier schools you mentioned.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 11:26     Subject: top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:DH and I are new to DMV - oldest DC starting 9th in non-"Big 3" private. DC interested in studying business in college, which neither DH or I studied in school (two doctors, neither of us have any business experience). Where should we start looking, just broadly to give DC a sense of his options/ different programs? Interested in DCUM recs for top tier business programs at public and private schools, as well as recommendations for middle tier or safety school programs as well. TYIA!


All the info. posted over 3 pages of responses are a google search away. Getting into a top business program is a crapshoot regardless of your kid's profile. 'Top' high schools have good admission results at these colleges because the parents are rich and are able to invest in a good private college admissions counselor who will help them navigate/game the admissions process to the kid's advantage - Picking the right courses, activities, fake charities, whatever it takes. Also read recent threads about admission disappointments from Big 3 into top schools.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 11:08     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:Penn
MIT
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Berkeley
UCLA
USC
UVA
UMich

That is my kid’s rough list.


UCLA only offers ECon, not business undergrad. Publics are not direct admit, your kid will need to apply to the biz program after sophomore year at Mich and UVA which is why mine crossed those off the list. UT Austin has strong program and for some strong students direct admit. Too, Rice just added a full biz major I believe.

But overall a good list. Next level down would be

Emory
BC
Villanova
UMiami


Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 10:57     Subject: top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“2) “business” is a wide field. If he is thinking finance at a top investment bank / private equity / asset management firm (that is what is highly compensated) then a liberal arts or Econ degree from a T20 school is what he’d would want to aim for. “

Ridiculous statement. Some of the top undergraduate business schools are at elite universities. Wharton, Sloan, etc.




Sloan is grad.


Also, Wharton is UPenn and is T20

I worked at a NYC I-bank and yes. Wharton students were recruit targets. But so were UPenn students, Barnard College English majors. The (well-known) form I worked at targeted top colleges/university grads with degrees that did not need to be business or Econ. But name brand school was a requirement.

For smaller firms and firms outside of NYC it might be different and they might cast a wider net. Certainly for accounting firms, having an accounting degree is important. But, I don’t think a business undergraduate degree is needed to work in all business roles.


Overall, excellent advice. One Note: An accounting degree is not necessary to be recruited for Big 4 consulting arms.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2023 09:58     Subject: Re:top business programs for UG, public and private
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn
MIT
Cornell
NYU
Georgetown
Berkeley
UCLA
USC
UVA
UMich

That is my kid’s rough list.

I would add Emory, WasU, Notre Dame


And CMU (Tepper)