Anonymous wrote:I like Hogan and Nikki Haley. Might vote for either one of them over a Dem in this next election. I’m a moderate Democrat in MoCo but everyday feel more like an independent. Maybe I’m just getting older and more conservative as time goes by or maybe the party just doesn’t align with my views any longer.
I didn’t like what Hogan tried to do with 270 etc with toll lanes and not sure what happened with all those COVID test.
BUT I thought Hogan stepped up in a big way during COVID leading the way for other governors - at a time when the federal gov’t (you know who I mean) was pretending the pandemic didn’t exist - at least publicly. Hogan showed us what leadership looks like then.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like Hogan!
Maryland Dem who voted for him before and would vote for him again if he runs.
Really?
Some state agencies have anywhere from 10% to 30% vacancies. According to the Maryland Department of Budget and Management, the state has 10,000 open positions to fill, which includes budgeted and unbudgeted positions, as well as 2,800 abolished positions.
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/maryland-state-job-vacancies-session-2023/42489722
No wonder people have been unable to get the help they're supposed to be able to get from our state government.
What help are people not getting? It looks to me like they are proving that the state government is capable of operating perfectly well at a significantly lower staffing level.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I like Hogan!
Maryland Dem who voted for him before and would vote for him again if he runs.
Really?
Some state agencies have anywhere from 10% to 30% vacancies. According to the Maryland Department of Budget and Management, the state has 10,000 open positions to fill, which includes budgeted and unbudgeted positions, as well as 2,800 abolished positions.
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/maryland-state-job-vacancies-session-2023/42489722
No wonder people have been unable to get the help they're supposed to be able to get from our state government.
Anonymous wrote:I like Hogan!
Maryland Dem who voted for him before and would vote for him again if he runs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His killing the red line in baltimore and the purple line in PG/MoCo did nothing to garner my support.
also, the MAGAs will never vote for him, so he has no chance on the national stage.
This.
Also, OP, how did you decide that he’s “the most popular modern governor in Maryland history “? Really? Based on what exactly?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moderate dem here. Would never vote for him. It is stupid to vote for a republican if you are not a republican because he would not be operating in a vacuum, he will be working with the rest of them.
I'm the moderate independent from earlier. This could also be an argument against voting for moderate Democrats, who are obliged to work with and, indeed, make concessions to the progressive wing of their own party. I deeply regret that there are extremes influencing either party, but that's the reality. We should instead be supporting centrists on both sides. That's the only sensible way forward.
IMO, progressive democrats are much better than right wing republicans, so I don’t find this to be a compelling argument.
Your opinion is wrong.
Let me know when progressive democrats stage an armed coup against the USA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moderate dem here. Would never vote for him. It is stupid to vote for a republican if you are not a republican because he would not be operating in a vacuum, he will be working with the rest of them.
I'm the moderate independent from earlier. This could also be an argument against voting for moderate Democrats, who are obliged to work with and, indeed, make concessions to the progressive wing of their own party. I deeply regret that there are extremes influencing either party, but that's the reality. We should instead be supporting centrists on both sides. That's the only sensible way forward.
IMO, progressive democrats are much better than right wing republicans, so I don’t find this to be a compelling argument.
Your opinion is wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moderate dem here. Would never vote for him. It is stupid to vote for a republican if you are not a republican because he would not be operating in a vacuum, he will be working with the rest of them.
I'm the moderate independent from earlier. This could also be an argument against voting for moderate Democrats, who are obliged to work with and, indeed, make concessions to the progressive wing of their own party. I deeply regret that there are extremes influencing either party, but that's the reality. We should instead be supporting centrists on both sides. That's the only sensible way forward.

Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moderate dem here. Would never vote for him. It is stupid to vote for a republican if you are not a republican because he would not be operating in a vacuum, he will be working with the rest of them.
Democrats.....the party of love and inclusion.![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moderate dem here. Would never vote for him. It is stupid to vote for a republican if you are not a republican because he would not be operating in a vacuum, he will be working with the rest of them.
I'm the moderate independent from earlier. This could also be an argument against voting for moderate Democrats, who are obliged to work with and, indeed, make concessions to the progressive wing of their own party. I deeply regret that there are extremes influencing either party, but that's the reality. We should instead be supporting centrists on both sides. That's the only sensible way forward.
IMO, progressive democrats are much better than right wing republicans, so I don’t find this to be a compelling argument.
Recent study done that states Americans are more concerned with extreme liberalism than the extreme right. You would be in the minority.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Moderate dem here. Would never vote for him. It is stupid to vote for a republican if you are not a republican because he would not be operating in a vacuum, he will be working with the rest of them.
Democrats.....the party of love and inclusion.![]()
The MD Democrats doing what the state needed and vetoing him as necessary are the only reason the sate was successful under him. And he hates public school teachers. That's a big one for me. And his ridiculous failure on the Covid tests from South Korea. And his hand in real estate.
I am not for or against him. I am genuinely curious what happened in regards to the covid test thing you pointed out.
He spent millions on Covid tests that were defective. At the time, he publicized his actions in a way that didn't sit well with me. He kept saying that in South Korea, his wife is regraded as royalty, so they were able to make a deal . I'm sure South Korea got more than money in return.
https://www.marylandmatters.org/2021/04/02/audit-hogan-administration-spent-11-9-million-on-south-korean-covid-tests/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/korean-coronavirus-tests-audit/2021/04/02/9c456726-9342-11eb-9668-89be11273c09_story.html
I did not know that. I just remember him getting kudos for getting the tests and having them guarded when they were flown in. That is interesting. Oops.
He did step up for Maryland at the onset of COVID in a way the federal government could not. Unfortunately, a lot of the smaller mistakes get overlooked. His unemployment website at that time was a massive failure. People who needed money get couldn't any. When he ended up with a 4.6 billion dollar surplus, it made me sick that so many had to beg their government for funds to buy food when the process should have been easy. He likes to credit for a lot that I don't think he deserves. Would we be better off under him than Trump? Most likely. Will Hogan be honest? Not likely. He likes power too and that is not always a good thing.