Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:53     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.


You simply don’t get it.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:51     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?


NJ HS student was beaten to a pulp at her public school. When she saw it posted on SOCIAL MEDIA — she killed herself.

She was beaten at school for years. School administrators LET it happen. They have f’in BLOOD on THEIR hands.

Deploy the National Guard to keep the kids safe from deadly beatings if you have to!!


Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:49     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.


You don’t know what you are talking about.

The causes are extremely individual. Is social media toxic? Very. But it’s oversimplifying things to say it’s the predominant cause. And you are likely beating that drum to make yourself feel like you are adequately protecting your kids and therefore it won’t happen to them (you).



By all means, keep your head buried in the sand.

Allowing early smartphone and social media adoption is the primary issue here. Not the ONLY issue but these are the single easiest aspects that you as a parent can have direct say/control over and not toeing the line here is an incredible disservice to your child and don't be surprised with the regret and guilt you'll be saddle with because you didn't think is was that big of a deal or it was "too hard" to keep say no.

Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:43     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Instagram.

Insta and are social media are literally causing this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/technology/meta-instagram-investigation-teens.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-suicide-social-media-bullying-mental-health-contributing-to-rise-in-deaths/

The evidence is overwhelming.


Kids were suicidal before instagram. Bullying has been around since the dawn of time. It just looked different.


“Instagram?” These fearmongers sound old and out of touch. Are their “kids” 25?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:42     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/cdc-data-shows-u-s-teen-girls-in-crisis-with-unprecedented-rise-in-suicidal-behavior

Has anyone else seen all this new data? As a mother of a HS age daughter I am just not seeing this. I asked my daughter about it and she doesn’t personally know anyone who has admitted any sort of struggle. She of course knows tons of kids on meds for ADHD but that’s pretty normal these days.

I keep pretty close tabs on things so I’m wondering how I’m missing this, or what the difference is? Not saying DD never struggles but generally she enjoys school and her friends and has a positive outlook. Her friends all seem the same.


Read this book:
https://www.thecoddling.com/

We are setting our kids up to feel fragile. It is having a disproportionate impact on mental health.


“The Coddling?” What abject garbage. No thanks.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:40     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.


Agree

There is strong evidence to support this from several studies I have read.


This is purely academic for you then. This is not your lived experience.


NP. I have seen lots of studies saying this and yes, for me it is academic. Are you saying that social media is not toxic or harming girls specifically?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:36     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.


Agree

There is strong evidence to support this from several studies I have read.


This is purely academic for you then. This is not your lived experience.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:24     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.


Agree

There is strong evidence to support this from several studies I have read.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:15     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.


You don’t know what you are talking about.

The causes are extremely individual. Is social media toxic? Very. But it’s oversimplifying things to say it’s the predominant cause. And you are likely beating that drum to make yourself feel like you are adequately protecting your kids and therefore it won’t happen to them (you).
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:04     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
No one said social media is the sole cause of teen girl suicide.

Social media is a major cause - maybe the predominant cause - of teen girl suicide today.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:03     Subject: Re:How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Instagram.

Insta and are social media are literally causing this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/technology/meta-instagram-investigation-teens.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-suicide-social-media-bullying-mental-health-contributing-to-rise-in-deaths/

The evidence is overwhelming.


Kids were suicidal before instagram. Bullying has been around since the dawn of time. It just looked different.


Tell us you let your daughter use Instagram, SnapChat, and TikTok without telling us you let your daughter use Instagram, SnapChat, and TikTok.


My kids don't use any of them. I am fine if they do as long as I have the password and can monitor it but they don't. Kids have always been bullied. You either ignored it in school or were the bully.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:02     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:Both my kids— girls— are being bullied in a so-called good dcps school. The kids bullying them have seemingly good parents who have no idea, and my kids forbid me to tell those parents about whats going on. The school wont do anything. I talk to my kids openly about my fears about teen suicide. Why? Because the kids at school are hideous. This threat feels too real.


You never know what goes on behind closed doors. Good is relative. They probably aren't particularly nice to their kids nor care. If you told the parents they will not care and it will make the situation worse.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 21:59     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Both my kids— girls— are being bullied in a so-called good dcps school. The kids bullying them have seemingly good parents who have no idea, and my kids forbid me to tell those parents about whats going on. The school wont do anything. I talk to my kids openly about my fears about teen suicide. Why? Because the kids at school are hideous. This threat feels too real.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 21:53     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/cdc-data-shows-u-s-teen-girls-in-crisis-with-unprecedented-rise-in-suicidal-behavior

Has anyone else seen all this new data? As a mother of a HS age daughter I am just not seeing this. I asked my daughter about it and she doesn’t personally know anyone who has admitted any sort of struggle. She of course knows tons of kids on meds for ADHD but that’s pretty normal these days.

I keep pretty close tabs on things so I’m wondering how I’m missing this, or what the difference is? Not saying DD never struggles but generally she enjoys school and her friends and has a positive outlook. Her friends all seem the same.



I have been seeing it played out over and over in DMV.

The outpatient and partial hospitalization programs in the area are overflowing. So many teens (especially girls) are either self harming, or have eating disorders or vaping or are constantly depressed and anxious.

The pandemic was rough for many youth especially girls.

Social media is generally toxic, misinformed and misogynistic. There is so much emphasis on questioning gender identity before they can possibly be expected to know. Boys routinely ask for nudes and share them. Revenge porn is happening as early as MS.

I am seeing it and it is alarming.




I am seeing this.





This has NOTHING to do with the pandemic and the pandemic has been over for two year and everything has been back to normal. Issues getting hospital beds and treatment has been an issue for many years. It isn't something new.

This isn't just social media.

These kids didn't just start having issues over night. They started having issues much younger and it intensified over time. Parents, teachers and others missed the warning signs. Parents need to step up and parent like the one poster is saying that she does for her daughter. As your kids get older, they need you just as much or more.

You can blame everything and everyone but ultimately as a parent you are responsible. And, sometimes mental health issues are genetic and will happen even if the child is in the perfect family/home/school.



Yes for sure certain factors make some youth more vulnerable than others to reduc d socialization and increased online time during pandemic. L

Our DD is definitely more vulnerable for different reasons, which I won’t go into to protect her privacy. But genetics is one of them.

Fortunately we have a strong relationship and she talks to me about many issues so we could deal with them: She has excellent therapeutic services, excellent medical care, is now in an educationally appropriate setting and is doing well. However, she made me aware of how wide spread serious mental health issues among her peers.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 21:53     Subject: How can 1/3 teen girls be suicidal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/cdc-data-shows-u-s-teen-girls-in-crisis-with-unprecedented-rise-in-suicidal-behavior

Has anyone else seen all this new data? As a mother of a HS age daughter I am just not seeing this. I asked my daughter about it and she doesn’t personally know anyone who has admitted any sort of struggle. She of course knows tons of kids on meds for ADHD but that’s pretty normal these days.

I keep pretty close tabs on things so I’m wondering how I’m missing this, or what the difference is? Not saying DD never struggles but generally she enjoys school and her friends and has a positive outlook. Her friends all seem the same.



I have been seeing it played out over and over in DMV.

The outpatient and partial hospitalization programs in the area are overflowing. So many teens (especially girls) are either self harming, or have eating disorders or vaping or are constantly depressed and anxious.

The pandemic was rough for many youth especially girls.

Social media is generally toxic, misinformed and misogynistic. There is so much emphasis on questioning gender identity before they can possibly be expected to know. Boys routinely ask for nudes and share them. Revenge porn is happening as early as MS.

I am seeing it and it is alarming.




I am seeing this.





This has NOTHING to do with the pandemic and the pandemic has been over for two year and everything has been back to normal. Issues getting hospital beds and treatment has been an issue for many years. It isn't something new.

This isn't just social media.

These kids didn't just start having issues over night. They started having issues much younger and it intensified over time. Parents, teachers and others missed the warning signs. Parents need to step up and parent like the one poster is saying that she does for her daughter. As your kids get older, they need you just as much or more.

You can blame everything and everyone but ultimately as a parent you are responsible. And, sometimes mental health issues are genetic and will happen even if the child is in the perfect family/home/school.


I’m the parent you are referring to, and the pandemic had a profound influence on the situation. It made everything SO MUCH WORSE. Google how to help a depressed teen, and tell me how many of any of the suggestions you find were options during the pandemic. Look up how mental health treatments went virtual, or weren’t available during that time.