Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 09:07     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:
As Newsweek correspondent, I flew with President Carter to Weisbaden on Jan. 20, 1981, to greet liberated US hostages. He returned deeply troubled. Hostages weren’t glad to see him. Aides said hostages had been falsely told he hadn’t tried to free them.

What I remember vividly, to this day, is Jimmy Carter's downcast look. He'd been defeated, but there was something else in his eyes. That's why we in the press pool asked his aides, why so sad? Their reply, above. We had no clue about Connally.


https://twitter.com/ElaineShannonDC/status/1637201688229560323


This is so disgusting.

Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 09:05     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
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Anonymous wrote:Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.


Lol no. You’re not blaming the GOP treachery on Carter. Those poor hostages were tortured for an extra 6 months just so some Texan and NY @ssholes who hate taxes could get a sundowning California actor puppet in the White House in 1980.


that is one story with no proof. Why weren't they released before the so-called trip?

The former Texas Lieutenant Governor who was in charge of the operation just confessed. Pay attention.


You didn't answer the question. The hostages had been held about a year before the "trip." Why didn't Carter get them out earlier? Was he negotiating with them?

They were warned that the embassy would be attacked. Yet, the Carter administration did not get them out before they were taken hostage. Why?


Do you know how often the embassy’s are under threat of attack? Basically every day.
Part of the job description is sticking through the dodgy situations and holding down the embassy to the last moment.

Let’s face it - Republicans let these hostages be tortured for another 6 months so that they’d improve Reagan’s election odds.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 08:35     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 22:12     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:The GOP is the party of businessmen and the most successful business leaders are generally amoral scumbags. They literally give zero sh#ts about anyone else and yes, will use American patriots as pawns.



if what you assert is true, that sounds immoral as opposed to amoral.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 21:53     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
As Newsweek correspondent, I flew with President Carter to Weisbaden on Jan. 20, 1981, to greet liberated US hostages. He returned deeply troubled. Hostages weren’t glad to see him. Aides said hostages had been falsely told he hadn’t tried to free them.

What I remember vividly, to this day, is Jimmy Carter's downcast look. He'd been defeated, but there was something else in his eyes. That's why we in the press pool asked his aides, why so sad? Their reply, above. We had no clue about Connally.


https://twitter.com/ElaineShannonDC/status/1637201688229560323
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 21:40     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.


Lol no. You’re not blaming the GOP treachery on Carter. Those poor hostages were tortured for an extra 6 months just so some Texan and NY @ssholes who hate taxes could get a sundowning California actor puppet in the White House in 1980.


that is one story with no proof. Why weren't they released before the so-called trip?

The former Texas Lieutenant Governor who was in charge of the operation just confessed. Pay attention.


You didn't answer the question. The hostages had been held about a year before the "trip." Why didn't Carter get them out earlier? Was he negotiating with them?

They were warned that the embassy would be attacked. Yet, the Carter administration did not get them out before they were taken hostage. Why?


Reagan and the republicans were in secret contact with the Irans. Just like Nixon did with North Vietnam.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 20:19     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
The former Texas Lieutenant Governor who was in charge of the operation just confessed. Pay attention.


Read the story--he "believes" that is what happened.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 20:14     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.


Lol no. You’re not blaming the GOP treachery on Carter. Those poor hostages were tortured for an extra 6 months just so some Texan and NY @ssholes who hate taxes could get a sundowning California actor puppet in the White House in 1980.


that is one story with no proof. Why weren't they released before the so-called trip?

The former Texas Lieutenant Governor who was in charge of the operation just confessed. Pay attention.


You didn't answer the question. The hostages had been held about a year before the "trip." Why didn't Carter get them out earlier? Was he negotiating with them?

They were warned that the embassy would be attacked. Yet, the Carter administration did not get them out before they were taken hostage. Why?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 20:06     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.


Lol no. You’re not blaming the GOP treachery on Carter. Those poor hostages were tortured for an extra 6 months just so some Texan and NY @ssholes who hate taxes could get a sundowning California actor puppet in the White House in 1980.


that is one story with no proof. Why weren't they released before the so-called trip?

The former Texas Lieutenant Governor who was in charge of the operation just confessed. Pay attention.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 19:48     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Mr. Barnes is saying that he didn't realize until much later what they were doing?

Here is an old story about Connolly and Barnes:https://www.nytimes.com/1986/09/14/business/john-connally-s-texas-sized-troubles.html


"Mr. Barnes, who also sprang from humble Texas roots, seemed destined for national political prominence until 1972, when he was caught up in the infamous Sharpstown bribery and stock manipulation scandal in Houston. While he was never indicted, he was tarred by his connections to the confessed swindler, Frank Sharp, and his political career was aborted."

Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 19:35     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.


Lol no. You’re not blaming the GOP treachery on Carter. Those poor hostages were tortured for an extra 6 months just so some Texan and NY @ssholes who hate taxes could get a sundowning California actor puppet in the White House in 1980.


that is one story with no proof. Why weren't they released before the so-called trip?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 19:30     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Anonymous wrote:Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.


Lol no. You’re not blaming the GOP treachery on Carter. Those poor hostages were tortured for an extra 6 months just so some Texan and NY @ssholes who hate taxes could get a sundowning California actor puppet in the White House in 1980.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 19:20     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
Carter let the Shah into the US. He knew it had ramifications. The embassy had warned it could be attacked--when he let the Shah in he should have closed the embassy first.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 18:46     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
The GOP is the party of businessmen and the most successful business leaders are generally amoral scumbags. They literally give zero sh#ts about anyone else and yes, will use American patriots as pawns.

Anonymous
Post 03/18/2023 18:04     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care
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Anonymous wrote:“What happened next Mr. Barnes has largely kept secret for nearly 43 years. Mr. Connally, he said, took him to one Middle Eastern capital after another that summer, meeting with a host of regional leaders to deliver a blunt message to be passed to Iran: Don’t release the hostages before the election. Mr. Reagan will win and give you a better deal.

Mr. Carter’s camp has long suspected that Mr. Casey or someone else in Mr. Reagan’s orbit sought to secretly torpedo efforts to liberate the hostages before the election, and books have been written on what came to be called the October surprise. But congressional investigations debunked previous theories of what happened.

Mr. Connally did not figure in those investigations. His involvement, as described by Mr. Barnes, adds a new understanding to what may have happened in that hard-fought, pivotal election year. With Mr. Carter now 98 and in hospice care, Mr. Barnes said he felt compelled to come forward to correct the record.”



This borders on treason. Those prisoners ostensibly were held in captivity for an extra 6 months just to help Reagan. We know they were tortured and violated while in captivity. Wtf.


Yeah, the article ends with this quote:

“I just want history to reflect that Carter got a little bit of a bad deal about the hostages,” he said. “He didn’t have a fighting chance with those hostages still in the embassy in Iran.”

Like the hostages themselves didn't matter one bit. It's all about the people in power and everybody else is a stupid pawn in their schemes. Politicians are truly scum.

I don’t think it’s suitable or sensible to both sides this one, especially not when we lost the second term of one of the most decent humans who ever occupied the Oval. The GOP did this to sink Carter and it worked; why it’s not made a bigger deal of, I really don’t know, but it allows people like you to say that it’s just “people in power,” and you’re saying it on a thread about Jimmy Carter for gosh sakes.

+1 And Connally was close with Nixon who did the same thing - sabotaging the peace talks in Vietnam - to win in 1968.