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Anonymous wrote:Nope. This speaks more to culture than anything. $35k is not enough to jump for.

This is where I fall on the question. Going from $170k to $205K but having to wear a suit and commute a total of an hour to an hour and a half round trip each day? No thanks. After taxes, commuting costs, and dry cleaning, you're not clearing that much extra money.

I might consider it if I could double my salary, but not for the increase you're talking about.

This is where I come down on it too. The extra juice isn’t worth the squeeze. After tax 35k is maybe ~2k net/month. Call it $1,500/month after dry cleaning and gas/parking. Call it an extra $375/week, but with an extra 90 min. per day lost, OP will be committing an extra 7.5 hours of her life per week that she currently has free to do something personally.

$375/7.5 = an extra $50/hour for her time. Personally, I’d rather spend an hour of my life at the gym, sleeping in, cooking nice food, etc. than trade that hour of my life for $50. But if I was in a place of financial hardship that calculus could change. Only OP can make that call.

It would have to be a *really* good job for me to do that.

I wouldn't make the move for that salary jump. But WFH is a huge on for me with young kids. Suit in 2023 5 days a week sounds like a very stuffy place as well. Different if that's the expectation for client mtgs or court.

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to disagree that $35K is not a lot of money, even after taxes and commuting cost.

That said, I’d not take it if you do t actually need the money.

OP I don’t like WFH it is not healthy. I got first taste of it in 2017. We allowed staff Fridays home and up to 10 additional WFH days. Next thing you know Covid came and it became a circus. I want to be with the grown ups again

I’d dig deeper into the culture and see if it’s really a fit.

I’m going to disagree that $35K is not a lot of money, even after taxes and commuting cost.

That said, I’d not take it if you do t actually need the money.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. This speaks more to culture than anything. $35k is not enough to jump for.

It is when you only make $170K

The only downside to no WFH is can’t take a second full time job. Knowing me that is a plus. I rather just focus on work at work and home at home. My new gig does same nonsense one month wait for benefits so will keep old remote job first month. Not by choice. I can easily juggle two for a month. Although my next vesting is July 1 which is tempting.

Anonymous wrote:Nope. This speaks more to culture than anything. $35k is not enough to jump for.

It is when you only make $170K

I have always hated wearing a tie. It is like a symbol of our captivity. Still, at least we can use it to end it all if we have a really bad meeting.

That is a surprising requirement.

In 2000, I was working in BigLaw when the law firms went to casual Fridays, and then within 6 months, many firms switched to casual every day (unless you had some event that required a suit).

Anonymous wrote:only you can answer this question. I wouldn't take, but i have young kids, and i am just not interested in going back to office full time.

Up to year 2020 we all did it. Daddy being home unshaven in a hoody staring at a computer screen is not a great role model. I think with kids being “present” at home as a SAH
parent or being at a real office job is better.

I really enjoyed when I had my corner office, wore a suit, had in person staff and we had take your kids to work day. Or I show up parent teacher day in suit from work.

My low point was Covid when I had three kids remote learning and I was WFH and my SAH spouse was in a living nightmare of all five of us gone 24/7. My kids are all back in person I think it is my turn me. Honestly it is everyone’s times.

My last fully remote job all my staff were working moms, some of mgt. should have retired but milking remote work mixed in with young kids partying and traveling.

I think I if we were in person more would be done, bigger raises and bonuses

Anonymous wrote:Small 200 person company where CEO believes zero remote work. Clients come to office and he wants you in suits. I also was told management team is a lot of in person meetings.

I used to be a big in person type person. But I have not stepped foot in an office in three years.

Oddly it is the suit thing that bugs me most. I used to hate a suit as after work or even lunch in a suit in DC in August?

Also everyone at same time will be hard. I kinda start work between 7-930am and end between 4:30 pm and 730 pm. Meaning I flex my schedule around. The stress of fighting beltway traffic.

I think I will ask for 50k more if not I won’t do it. Sounds like a pain.

You don't seem to have very strong written communication skills. Maybe they should give you a written exam first.

only you can answer this question. I wouldn't take, but i have young kids, and i am just not interested in going back to office full time.

Anonymous wrote:I hope the job doesn't require writing in complete sentences..

It’s on the Hill. So I will just use fancy charts with colors and jargon and woke words. Download off slide share some pretty power point slides and waive my electronic pointer. I get to wear my suit in person and act important.

maybe watch a few madmen episodes before I go.

I loved the interviews me in a fresh suit, smell of dry cleaning in my power tie chatting up hot HR lady. Dropping names. It was great. Looking forward to it. God did not make me to sit in a basement on a hoodie all day.

And the second in charge position they l ft open so I can hire my own. And they used the four words that I love. “Executive Deferred Compensation Plan” can’t wait to be back in person. Maybe I will get a Porsche 911 convertible to go with my Don Draper suit wearing look. So sick of being home. Life 360 I don’t leave house for days at a time and my car battery died twice.

Turns out it is a $52,000 raise so for $1,000 a week raise I guess I am back on the saddle!! Can’t wait to “white board” and have over site board strategy sessions and attend long winded EXCO type meetings where I drop a George Castanzza type nugget of wisdom

I hope the job doesn't require writing in complete sentences..