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Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

Not out of the goodness of Elon's cold little heart. The US government is paying them to do it.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs

It's a business, not a charity.

He could have started out with compatible chargers right out of the box. If he actually cared about the environment. Instead he makes every station install two types of EVs. Oh right, it's a business.

Why is it on Elon to do all of the work?

Car manufacturers could have gone EV many decades ago before Tesla even existed.

What do you mean? A charger standard already existed. Instead Elon chose to do extra work to make his own special chargers.

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Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

Not out of the goodness of Elon's cold little heart. The US government is paying them to do it.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs

It's a business, not a charity.

He could have started out with compatible chargers right out of the box. If he actually cared about the environment. Instead he makes every station install two types of EVs. Oh right, it's a business.

Why is it on Elon to do all of the work?

Car manufacturers could have gone EV many decades ago before Tesla even existed.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

Not out of the goodness of Elon's cold little heart. The US government is paying them to do it.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs

It's a business, not a charity.

He could have started out with compatible chargers right out of the box. If he actually cared about the environment. Instead he makes every station install two types of EVs. Oh right, it's a business.

Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

Not out of the goodness of Elon's cold little heart. The US government is paying them to do it.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs

It's a business, not a charity.

He could have started out with compatible chargers right out of the box. If he actually cared about the environment. Instead he makes every station install two types of EVs. Oh right, it's a business.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

Not out of the goodness of Elon's cold little heart. The US government is paying them to do it.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs

It's a business, not a charity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

Not out of the goodness of Elon's cold little heart. The US government is paying them to do it.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-02-15/u-s-government-will-pay-tesla-to-open-its-charger-network-to-non-tesla-evs

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Anonymous wrote:Who buys an EV to go on road trips? It's a car to save gas commuting to work and running errands at this point.

EVs don’t save money on gas. I saw a study that included extra cost to buy plus cost of electric and per mile costs more than a gas powered car.

Anonymous wrote:Tesla just announced they will be opening up their network to non-Tesla vehicles.

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Anonymous wrote:Who buys an EV to go on road trips? It's a car to save gas commuting to work and running errands at this point.

Who buys a car to do car things? What, are you crazy?

Next, you'll be telling us buying and EV pickup truck that loses huge amounts of range is stupid, because who would buy a pickup truck to do pickup truck things?

Right now there are things an EV (car or pickup) is better for, a huge amount of overlaps where they are similar, and things where ICE is better.

That’s the truth. If your use case is the things an ICE is better at— like driving from Michigan to Florida in the dead of winter— then get an ICE.

But there are plenty whose use case is things where an EV is a good or better than an ICE.

Well put. We have a plug-in hybrid SUV for longer trips and a tiny full electric for daily short distance driving. Only buy gas for road trips now.

So you need two cars rather than one.

What a stupid idea.

That's even worse for the environment than owning a single ICE, because you are consuming even more in order to make up for the shitty gaps EVs cannot reliably cover

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to have stories like this out there and ignore the fact that Teslas do not have these issues. We road trip a chunk of what they did often in our Tesla (our only car) and it is very easy. Car does all the planning, chargers work, recharge fast. Also sounds like in this story the driver had no idea what he was doing and started off not 100 percent charged.

There are good apps for non-Tesla EVs: https://www.makeuseof.com/best-apps-ev-route-planning/

Sure, Tesla's on their list. But there are others.

The "EV Hotels" app finds hotels that will let you charge your non-Tesla or Tesla EV overnight.

The "A Better Route Planner" app says, "Unlike Tesla's app, which is limited to its Supercharger network, A Better Route Planner covers all the public EV chargers on your route. ... If you're not driving a Tesla, you can include your car model details on the app to calculate your range, charging time, and energy consumption. Beyond that, the ABRP app also tells you the road conditions, wind, temperature, weather, and routes to avoid—basically, everything you need to know to plan your trip without any hiccups.

The "Plug Share" app says, "Unlike most apps, you're not required to register an account to find nearby public EV chargers. However, if you set up an account, you can include your EV car model to predict your range and charging time accurately. The PlugShare app will also tell you the compatible plugs for your EV in each charging station. What's more, you can use the app to locate amenities with lodging, dining, Wi-Fi, shopping restroom, valet, shopping, and groceries. The best part is that the PlugShare app is free and covers almost all countries worldwide."

Even good old Google Maps will help you plan: "Even though you can't use Google Maps to estimate the range of your electric vehicle, it can tell you the charging speeds and available ports in nearby charging stations. If you're living in the U.S. and U.K, Google Maps will provide real-time data on available charging stations, so you don't have to line up."

And there are other apps.