Anonymous
02/14/2023 16:18
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
Please find me one exame of a pre 18 year old having a double mastectomy.
Not hard to do
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html
WHO CARES??!! You worry about your kids, let other people worry about their kids!!!!! Who the hell do people think they are to even have an opinion on this if it's not their family member. Mind your own damn business and stop it with all this crap.
So, you’re against child abuse laws and truancy laws?
Anonymous
02/14/2023 16:10
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
Please find me one exame of a pre 18 year old having a double mastectomy.
Not hard to do
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html
WHO CARES??!! You worry about your kids, let other people worry about their kids!!!!! Who the hell do people think they are to even have an opinion on this if it's not their family member. Mind your own damn business and stop it with all this crap.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 16:00
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
Please find me one exame of a pre 18 year old having a double mastectomy.
Not hard to do
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html
Anonymous
02/14/2023 15:57
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
bottom line, if you don't want to do these things, then don't, but please don't tell other people how they should live their lives
We are talking about kids here.
What happened to parents being the ultimate authority over their kids?
Exactly. They want it all ways, with the end result always being government interference. Don't like the books? Ban them, parents don't want that in their kids' classrooms. Don't want to hear about gender identity? Ban that discussion in schools and call it the parental freedom act or some such BS. But now parents want to have control over their kids' mental health? Oh, we can't have that. Hypocrites.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 15:35
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is cutting off genitals of children. Educate yourself. They're making gender affirming care illegal, which includes a lot of treatments, few of which are surgical.
Hormones and puberty blockers are not safe and shouldn't be given to children. Doctors know this, they are just choosing to look the other way in these situations.
So state legislators know better than doctors and patients?
In some cases, doctors and therapists have. been conditioned to encourage transitioning at a young age. Just as we have age requirements for so many things, it makes sense to wait on these types of treatments. I would never fully trust any medical professional which is why we get second opinions and advocate for our own care. And humans have proven time and time again that they don't always know what's beat. Sometimes you just have to save people from themselves. Waiting on such a huge decision makes perfect sense.
How do you know these patients haven't had second and third opinions? Really, this is none of your business to be making a judgement on.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 15:11
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
UK's NHS issued a guidance against any type of transition for minors, including social guidance.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:30
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
I wonder if insurance will cover therapy bills down the road for parents who go all-in on transitions for their emotionally troubled children, who then figure out after permanently ruining their healthy bodies that the issue was in fact something else.
But hey, maybe this really is the one case in mental health where the patient can self-diagnose with 100% accuracy even as a child.
But hey, maybe this really is the one case in mental health where the patient can self-diagnose with 100% accuracy even as a child.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:28
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
Please find me one exame of a pre 18 year old having a double mastectomy.
So, no problem blocking it if it doesn’t happen. (You have your head in the sand and are willfully ignoring many such cases, but that’s fine if you agree it shouldn’t happen.)
Example please.
Example listed by someone else above from a NYT article.
In some states minors can’t get tattoos but they can lop their nuts off? And you support that for children?
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:19
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:I promise more kids are being harmed by guns than by doctors providing gender affirming care.
Do you know what a zero sum game is?
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:18
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
It's not a double mastectomy. It's a breast reduction. They don't remove all the breast tissue. Learn what you're talking about before you start spouting off medical terms. It's like when people talk about a heartbeat being detected in a fetus that hasn't developed a heart yet.
Wonder why the Mayo Clinic calls it a mastectomy? https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/top-surgery-for-transgender-men/about/pac-20469462#:~:text=Overview,your%20skin%2C%20nipple%20and%20areola.
Top surgery for transgender men and nonbinary people is a procedure to remove breast or chest tissue (subcutaneous mastectomy). It's also called masculinizing chest surgery.
If your chest size is small, you might be able to have surgery that spares your skin, nipple and areola. This type of surgery is called nipple-sparing subcutaneous mastectomy. If you have a larger chest, you might need to have your nipples and areolas taken off, resized and placed back into position.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:17
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
bottom line, if you don't want to do these things, then don't, but please don't tell other people how they should live their lives
We are talking about kids here.
What happened to parents being the ultimate authority over their kids?
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:16
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is cutting off genitals of children. Educate yourself. They're making gender affirming care illegal, which includes a lot of treatments, few of which are surgical.
Hormones and puberty blockers are not safe and shouldn't be given to children. Doctors know this, they are just choosing to look the other way in these situations.
So state legislators know better than doctors and patients?
In some cases, doctors and therapists have. been conditioned to encourage transitioning at a young age. Just as we have age requirements for so many things, it makes sense to wait on these types of treatments. I would never fully trust any medical professional which is why we get second opinions and advocate for our own care. And humans have proven time and time again that they don't always know what's beat. Sometimes you just have to save people from themselves. Waiting on such a huge decision makes perfect sense.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:16
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
Please find me one exame of a pre 18 year old having a double mastectomy.
So, no problem blocking it if it doesn’t happen. (You have your head in the sand and are willfully ignoring many such cases, but that’s fine if you agree it shouldn’t happen.)
Example please.
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:15
Subject: South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is cutting off genitals of children. Educate yourself. They're making gender affirming care illegal, which includes a lot of treatments, few of which are surgical.
Hormones and puberty blockers are not safe and shouldn't be given to children. Doctors know this, they are just choosing to look the other way in these situations.
So state legislators know better than doctors and patients?
Seems so.
According to whom?
Anonymous
02/14/2023 14:13
Subject: Re:South Dakota forcing trans kids to detransition
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can't legally sign a contract to buy a car, a house, etc. until you're 18, but you can have a double mastectomy (and yes, this is happening to minors).
Puberty blockers aren't anything to be taken lightly either. Many think the results are reversible, but that's not often the case.
Many European countries are reversing course on these medical "interventions", even progressive Sweden, Finland, Denmark...
Please find me one exame of a pre 18 year old having a double mastectomy.
"Dr. Gallagher said she performed top surgeries on about 40 patients a month, and roughly one or two of them are under 18. Younger patients are usually at least 15, though she has operated on one 13-year-old and one 14-year-old, she said, both of whom had extreme distress about their chests," a New York Times article published Monday reads.
NY Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html