Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 08:37     Subject: Re:TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:I think the real question is where are tj grads going - starting with the years of the new admissions requirements. Is that 2025?


Lots of talented URMs in the 2025 class that the elite colleges are looking for (there are struggling ones too but even they will land well). Asians will probably dip.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 08:35     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I hear getting into UVA, VT is really tough from TJ. A large majority of TJ kids go out of state (with parents footing the bill!)


I believe TJ students overall get more academic scholarship money than any other high school. And look at the schools a lot of kids are going to OOS. They are quite good.

TJ sent 49 to UVA in 2022. That is very likely the highest of any high school in the country. Virginia Tech was only 7. I think that had more to do with students choosing to go elsewhere.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined


More students attend Cornell, CMU, NYU, Michigan, MIT, UMD, Purdue, UIUC, Chicago and Georgetown THAN VT. That's messed up. Either VT has completely different priorities than bringing in the best students from the state or not seen very favorably at TJHSST.


I think the issue at Tech is that TJ students view them as a safety, particularly for CS, and Tech knows the story. If a kid is at TJ and really wants to go to Tech for CS they probably need to ED.


I get it, but W&M (26), VCU (10) and Mason (10) don't seem to have a problem. I would assume that W&M and VCU are more med school focused. Still the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech school can't/won't enroll larger numbers from the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech high school because...ego?


No, because...racism


VT is racist in admission policies? Or TJ students turn down VT because they perceive it to be racist?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2023 01:19     Subject: Re:TJ College Admissions Results

I think the real question is where are tj grads going - starting with the years of the new admissions requirements. Is that 2025?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 23:23     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear getting into UVA, VT is really tough from TJ. A large majority of TJ kids go out of state (with parents footing the bill!)


I believe TJ students overall get more academic scholarship money than any other high school. And look at the schools a lot of kids are going to OOS. They are quite good.

TJ sent 49 to UVA in 2022. That is very likely the highest of any high school in the country. Virginia Tech was only 7. I think that had more to do with students choosing to go elsewhere.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined


More students attend Cornell, CMU, NYU, Michigan, MIT, UMD, Purdue, UIUC, Chicago and Georgetown THAN VT. That's messed up. Either VT has completely different priorities than bringing in the best students from the state or not seen very favorably at TJHSST.


I think the issue at Tech is that TJ students view them as a safety, particularly for CS, and Tech knows the story. If a kid is at TJ and really wants to go to Tech for CS they probably need to ED.


I get it, but W&M (26), VCU (10) and Mason (10) don't seem to have a problem. I would assume that W&M and VCU are more med school focused. Still the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech school can't/won't enroll larger numbers from the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech high school because...ego?


No, because...racism
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 22:39     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap


This is a knee jerk political reaction that will backfire every time like it did in the last Governor Election.

What blacks and hispanic communities need at this very moment are the tools to compete with the Asians and the majority. This means the State allocating more resources to lift the standards of public schools in the predominantly black and hispanic neigborhoods.

Pushing black and hispanic kids not adequately prepared to attended a school like TJ will do more harm than good. It will be race to the bottom for everyone.


That they are not adequately prepared is a convenient myth. The school programming is the tool. The underlying assertion here is that private enrichment is needed. It shouldn't be. Perhaps Asian families have invested more in enrichment in an aim to get in/ahead.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 22:34     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap


This is a knee jerk political reaction that will backfire every time like it did in the last Governor Election.

What blacks and hispanic communities need at this very moment are the tools to compete with the Asians and the majority. This means the State allocating more resources to lift the standards of public schools in the predominantly black and hispanic neigborhoods.

Pushing black and hispanic kids not adequately prepared to attended a school like TJ will do more harm than good. It will be race to the bottom for everyone.


This


Maybe Asian students can go tutor at these lesser schools and share the wealth
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 22:33     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap


This is a knee jerk political reaction that will backfire every time like it did in the last Governor Election.

What blacks and hispanic communities need at this very moment are the tools to compete with the Asians and the majority. This means the State allocating more resources to lift the standards of public schools in the predominantly black and hispanic neigborhoods.

Pushing black and hispanic kids not adequately prepared to attended a school like TJ will do more harm than good. It will be race to the bottom for everyone.


I saw TJ stuffers in news tonight. Judging they were all Asian with heavy accents who knows if they even attended much school in Va or even the US prior to HS. Was on Fox. It felt a bit racist as Asian students solely focused on complaining not all their Asian friends got in.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 22:09     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear getting into UVA, VT is really tough from TJ. A large majority of TJ kids go out of state (with parents footing the bill!)


I believe TJ students overall get more academic scholarship money than any other high school. And look at the schools a lot of kids are going to OOS. They are quite good.

TJ sent 49 to UVA in 2022. That is very likely the highest of any high school in the country. Virginia Tech was only 7. I think that had more to do with students choosing to go elsewhere.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined


More students attend Cornell, CMU, NYU, Michigan, MIT, UMD, Purdue, UIUC, Chicago and Georgetown THAN VT. That's messed up. Either VT has completely different priorities than bringing in the best students from the state or not seen very favorably at TJHSST.


I think the issue at Tech is that TJ students view them as a safety, particularly for CS, and Tech knows the story. If a kid is at TJ and really wants to go to Tech for CS they probably need to ED.


I get it, but W&M (26), VCU (10) and Mason (10) don't seem to have a problem. I would assume that W&M and VCU are more med school focused. Still the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech school can't/won't enroll larger numbers from the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech high school because...ego?


I wonder how many Georgia Tech would enroll if in state.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 13:25     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap


This is a knee jerk political reaction that will backfire every time like it did in the last Governor Election.

What blacks and hispanic communities need at this very moment are the tools to compete with the Asians and the majority. This means the State allocating more resources to lift the standards of public schools in the predominantly black and hispanic neigborhoods.

Pushing black and hispanic kids not adequately prepared to attended a school like TJ will do more harm than good. It will be race to the bottom for everyone.


This
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 13:04     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Tip of the hat to the savvy VCU admits saving $250,000 in undergraduate costs on the way to becoming doctors.

Many props to the GMU admits launching themselves into lucrative cybersecurity careers and stratospheric higher-education ROI.

Quizzical glance at the Michigan admits spending an extra $200,000 for the same engineering training to be had at Virginia Tech, the commonwealth's top engineering school and a crazy effective pipeline to consulting C-suites.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 11:52     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap


This is a knee jerk political reaction that will backfire every time like it did in the last Governor Election.

What blacks and hispanic communities need at this very moment are the tools to compete with the Asians and the majority. This means the State allocating more resources to lift the standards of public schools in the predominantly black and hispanic neigborhoods.

Pushing black and hispanic kids not adequately prepared to attended a school like TJ will do more harm than good. It will be race to the bottom for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 11:41     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap


For better college admissions?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 11:39     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

73 percent Asian. They need more blacks, Spanish asap
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 11:37     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear getting into UVA, VT is really tough from TJ. A large majority of TJ kids go out of state (with parents footing the bill!)


I believe TJ students overall get more academic scholarship money than any other high school. And look at the schools a lot of kids are going to OOS. They are quite good.

TJ sent 49 to UVA in 2022. That is very likely the highest of any high school in the country. Virginia Tech was only 7. I think that had more to do with students choosing to go elsewhere.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined


More students attend Cornell, CMU, NYU, Michigan, MIT, UMD, Purdue, UIUC, Chicago and Georgetown THAN VT. That's messed up. Either VT has completely different priorities than bringing in the best students from the state or not seen very favorably at TJHSST.


I think the issue at Tech is that TJ students view them as a safety, particularly for CS, and Tech knows the story. If a kid is at TJ and really wants to go to Tech for CS they probably need to ED.


I get it, but W&M (26), VCU (10) and Mason (10) don't seem to have a problem. I would assume that W&M and VCU are more med school focused. Still the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech school can't/won't enroll larger numbers from the Commonwealth's "premier" Tech high school because...ego?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2023 11:37     Subject: TJ College Admissions Results

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear getting into UVA, VT is really tough from TJ. A large majority of TJ kids go out of state (with parents footing the bill!)


I believe TJ students overall get more academic scholarship money than any other high school. And look at the schools a lot of kids are going to OOS. They are quite good.

TJ sent 49 to UVA in 2022. That is very likely the highest of any high school in the country. Virginia Tech was only 7. I think that had more to do with students choosing to go elsewhere.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined


More students attend Cornell, CMU, NYU, Michigan, MIT, UMD, Purdue, UIUC, Chicago and Georgetown THAN VT. That's messed up. Either VT has completely different priorities than bringing in the best students from the state or not seen very favorably at TJHSST.


Like every other schools anywhere, the ultimate destination depends on bunch of other factors, i.e. financial aid, family contribution, family and individual preference/fit and many more. While the general perception is students always end up at the highest ranked school where they are accepted that is not always the case. For example VCU may throw enough aid to kids accepted at VT or UV is more affordable than Harvard - these happens more often than you think and TJ is not an exception.

Generally speaking the yield rate for TJ students are about the same as the national average and acceptance rates are slightly higher, however the competition is intense to the point it could be very unhealthy for the kids. This is not necessarily driven only by the parents although there are parents who push their kids too hard. The intense culture of TJ and the kids themselves often push themselves over the limit.