Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:57     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?


No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.

The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?


You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer"


NP. The words “girl” and “women” do not bother me. I hear and say those things in conversation. I am also completely unbothered by the word “person.” I don’t care which word is used. The point of language to convey meaning, and when someone is described as a “pregnant person” or a “pregnant woman”…I got the meaning, and I move on with my day. For anyone to bring conversation to a screeching halt over “person” is beyond absurd and dramatic.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:57     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:It is not inaccurate to say “pregnant person” or “person with testicular cancer.” Sorry you can’t grasp that basic fact. There’s nothing to argue with.

I could say “the person down the street has a Tesla” or “the man down the street has a Tesla” or “my neighbor Bob down the street has a Tesla” or “my neighbor who works at UMD has a Tesla.” None of these statements are inaccurate.


And neither is saying " a girl in my class is pregnant" She identifies as a girl. Why are you policing what I say?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:55     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?


No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.

The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?


You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer"
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:48     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a translator I see that tendency to remove the word "woman" everywhere they can. Violence against women became gender-based violence, pregnant women became pregnant persons. I could cite many more. I specifically remember a text where there was a report of x number of girls being abused. They changed it in the original text to say "x number of minors". In my translation, I decided to keep the feminine form since I knew for a fact they were all girls. I was told I should stick to the gender neutral. That's the problem with erasing women. What does it mean when we say "x number of people are killed by their intimate partners every year" for example. Aren't we leaving out an essential part of the equation?


How about you push for trans equality so that anyone who identifies as a woman or a girl is counted as such, then we won’t have to bother with the inclusive language? When a trans woman is murdered, that should count as a woman being murdered, yes?


I translated several hundred pages on transgender violence. Transgendered women being murdered are accounted for as such because it's a very specific hate crime and we don't just say they are women or people. The same way when women are murdered by their partner, it's important to say they were women and not just people, because that's what motivated the crime.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:44     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is nothing incorrect about saying “pregnant person” or whatever, so what is the issue? Be glad your daughter is talking to you. Be sure to keep parsing and criticizing the words she chooses, and see where that gets you.

The majority of men and women in our country know it's absurd to talk about pregnant people and individuals instead of girls, women, mothers, moms, etc.


This. It is ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:43     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



One in many thousands pregnant people may be a transgendered man. So that's the reasoning behind it.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:42     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:As a translator I see that tendency to remove the word "woman" everywhere they can. Violence against women became gender-based violence, pregnant women became pregnant persons. I could cite many more. I specifically remember a text where there was a report of x number of girls being abused. They changed it in the original text to say "x number of minors". In my translation, I decided to keep the feminine form since I knew for a fact they were all girls. I was told I should stick to the gender neutral. That's the problem with erasing women. What does it mean when we say "x number of people are killed by their intimate partners every year" for example. Aren't we leaving out an essential part of the equation?


How about you push for trans equality so that anyone who identifies as a woman or a girl is counted as such, then we won’t have to bother with the inclusive language? When a trans woman is murdered, that should count as a woman being murdered, yes?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:39     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
As a translator I see that tendency to remove the word "woman" everywhere they can. Violence against women became gender-based violence, pregnant women became pregnant persons. I could cite many more. I specifically remember a text where there was a report of x number of girls being abused. They changed it in the original text to say "x number of minors". In my translation, I decided to keep the feminine form since I knew for a fact they were all girls. I was told I should stick to the gender neutral. That's the problem with erasing women. What does it mean when we say "x number of people are killed by their intimate partners every year" for example. Aren't we leaving out an essential part of the equation?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:34     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



What information does "person" or "individual" add?


Why does more information need to be added, hmm?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:34     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
It is not inaccurate to say “pregnant person” or “person with testicular cancer.” Sorry you can’t grasp that basic fact. There’s nothing to argue with.

I could say “the person down the street has a Tesla” or “the man down the street has a Tesla” or “my neighbor Bob down the street has a Tesla” or “my neighbor who works at UMD has a Tesla.” None of these statements are inaccurate.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:34     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



What information does "person" or "individual" add?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:34     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?


No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.

The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:32     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why won’t gen Z use the Word girl?

My dd told me there a pregnant person at her school….::



Because they don't want to be cancelled and person is the term that they are expected to use. Even if they don't believe it. They don't want to accidentally say girl or woman to you because they might slip up and use that word o their peers.


If they don't believe a woman or a girl is a person?

Yes, that is a belief one should keep to oneself.


Are you a generation z? This is what my gen z told me. Do you honestly believe that older generations did not believe girls/women are people? I can assure you that we do. But, the only people who can get pregnant are women. Sorry you were out of class that day when they expalined how the world works. You can think of yourself as anything you want but, biology matters.

My question to you is why are you afraid of the word girl/women? If I said "that woman is pregnant" how does that bother you? Do you not believe that women/girls exsist? Something is wrong when someone says something factually accurate and be cancelled.



If you believe that women and girls are people, then why does referring to a woman or girl as a "person" especially when their sex is already known from the word "pregnant" bother you?

The only people trying to cancel anyone are the people objecting to the phrase "person". Why are you afraid of that word? Why does someone who says "pregnant person" (which is factually accurate) deserve to get cancelled?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:31     Subject: Re:Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.

A woman is an adult human female.

These are controversial sayings now.


If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?



Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2023 10:30     Subject: Won’t use the word “girl”
Anonymous wrote:My 20 year old references “dude” for boy. Drives me crazy.


this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Would your son say that person has testicular cancer? probably not. only the word girl/women are being erased