Anonymous
01/27/2023 21:25
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
I’m doing quite well in life after graduating with a 2.7.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 21:13
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In what world can college graduates with a C average NOT get a job. OP what evidence to you have to support your claim?
But, more important, why does the OP think a college student has to stay in the same program? That’s why I think the OP is part of a non-U.S. propaganda effort. Many bachelor’s degree programs in Europe do lock students onto a particular track. U.S. schools are famous for not doing that.
I think another red flag is the use of the term “menial jobs.” That’s perfectly good English, but it’s the kind of phrase that would show up in an RT editorial, not a phrase that angry American parents or students would be likely to use.
Maybe some AI program or poorly paid live-human homework helper uses triggers like the original post to get us to generate language and ideas that could go into an AI system, or into a canned term paper database.
Another possibility is that a company that puts ads on DCUM hires freelancers to start fights here to increase time on site and feed the ads more hits.
So, it’s possible that the fight-starting posts are apolitical in nature.
But they simply are weird and artificial. They aren’t just examples of people like me putting off doing the dishes by posting random thoughts online.
Um... maybe have a drink and relax. This is some incredibly weird overthinking.
NP
Anonymous
01/27/2023 21:08
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Do employers actually ask for GPA? I’ve never heard of that.
Federal gov't - absolutely. Which is absurd when you're 50 and applying for jobs and they *still* require your GPA.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 15:49
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
THe thing is a kid with a 2.0 at one point can bring it up to > 3.0 later. There's a real trajectory--a kid can have a rough 1st year adjusting etc. or go through a break up and tank their courses sophomore year. So really you only know if the GPA is going to stay low by the end and at that point you're better off getting the degree and being shut out of some--but not all--jobs.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 15:33
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:In what world can college graduates with a C average NOT get a job. OP what evidence to you have to support your claim?
But, more important, why does the OP think a college student has to stay in the same program? That’s why I think the OP is part of a non-U.S. propaganda effort. Many bachelor’s degree programs in Europe do lock students onto a particular track. U.S. schools are famous for not doing that.
I think another red flag is the use of the term “menial jobs.” That’s perfectly good English, but it’s the kind of phrase that would show up in an RT editorial, not a phrase that angry American parents or students would be likely to use.
Maybe some AI program or poorly paid live-human homework helper uses triggers like the original post to get us to generate language and ideas that could go into an AI system, or into a canned term paper database.
Another possibility is that a company that puts ads on DCUM hires freelancers to start fights here to increase time on site and feed the ads more hits.
So, it’s possible that the fight-starting posts are apolitical in nature.
But they simply are weird and artificial. They aren’t just examples of people like me putting off doing the dishes by posting random thoughts online.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 12:45
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
In what world can college graduates with a C average NOT get a job. OP what evidence to you have to support your claim?
Anonymous
01/27/2023 11:19
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Graduating high school by the skin of one's teeth is better than not graduating at all. Said student may not have many university options, but they can still go to community college, and even many menial jobs want their employers to have at-least a high school diploma. However, the whole point of going to college is to be able to get a better job than one you could get with just a high school diploma. Most colleges require students to maintain a minimum of a 2.0, but most companies won't even consider a candidate with that low of a gpa. By allowing students with C averages to stay in their program, they are wasting said students' time.
Simple. Colleges DON'T require students to maintain a GPA because Colleges KNOW most jobs DON'T require a GPA.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 11:05
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many do.
How can you not know that?
Easy it literally says on the job posting LOL.
Many companies do have a 3.0 min. Which is why some people go to grad school to change their gpa.
C's get degrees it's what a student does with their degree that is important.
Clever deflection, troll.
Many colleges require maintaining a minimum GPA.
But since this thread is about GPAs and entry level jobs let me ask you all this...
Do you interview the C student from Harvard/Yale/Princeton or the "A" student from the school no one has ever heard of?
Most colleges only require a 2.0 gpa as a minimum.
There may be certain majors that require higher---typically they are linked with direct admit to a graduate program (think PT/OT/MBA) and to remain in the direct admit program you need a 2.5 or 3.0. But I've had 3 kids in college and the only programs that require anything over 2.0 are the direct admit grad programs, and that makes sense---to get into PT school with an undergrad degree you would need a 3.7+ gpa, so it's reasonable to expect students to maintain a 2.5 in undergrad to stay in the program.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 11:00
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many do.
How can you not know that?
Easy it literally says on the job posting LOL.
Many companies do have a 3.0 min. Which is why some people go to grad school to change their gpa.
C's get degrees it's what a student does with their degree that is important.
Clever deflection, troll.
Many colleges require maintaining a minimum GPA.
But since this thread is about GPAs and entry level jobs let me ask you all this...
Do you interview the C student from Harvard/Yale/Princeton or the "A" student from the school no one has ever heard of?
Trick question...the C student does not exist at Harvard/Yale/Princeton because they don't give out anything less than a B (10% joke / 90% true).
Anonymous
01/27/2023 11:00
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:My son graduated with a sub 3.0 engineering degree . It did exclude him from some jobs and definitely internships but it is not like he did not get a job.
This---it will just be harder to find an internship and job (3.0 is a gate-keeper and 3.5 is another for internships and jobs). But employers know engineering is hard and even someone who got a 2.5 in engineering is smart and can do the job. The lower your gpa the harder you have to work to get the interviews. But tons of kids with under 3.0 gpas get jobs using their degree all the time
Anonymous
01/27/2023 10:57
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Graduating high school by the skin of one's teeth is better than not graduating at all. Said student may not have many university options, but they can still go to community college, and even many menial jobs want their employers to have at-least a high school diploma. However, the whole point of going to college is to be able to get a better job than one you could get with just a high school diploma. Most colleges require students to maintain a minimum of a 2.0, but most companies won't even consider a candidate with that low of a gpa. By allowing students with C averages to stay in their program, they are wasting said students' time.
Are you the same mommy from the MoCo schools forum who wanted their darling to retake a class in which they got a C?
My niece had barely above a C average in college and is working for a company in Austin. She’s doing alright for herself and not sponging off my sister. There’s more to life than grades.
+1000
C's get degrees! And jobs. It may just take a bit longer to search and find that job, because yes, many of the recruiters on college campuses want a min of 3.0 before looking at a candidate. But it's not all---my kid applied to some that had 2.5 as gpa (my kid had a 3.4, but never got an internship due to covid so was applying everywhere in hopes of landing a job---and they did with an excellent company)
A 2.5 student can still find a job in their field and once they get that first job it will not matter what their gpa was.
Also, anyone going to college knows/is told that it's easier to find a job with a higher gpa (at least 3.0). Then it's up to your kid if they choose to get those grades or not.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 10:14
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people interviewing for positions that require years of experience are weighing in. Clearly, OP is talking about entry-level first jobs.
I thought a number of schools were actually restricting employers from asking about GPA if they wanted to use on-campus services. Maybe I am wrong.
However, the OP makes a valuable point and it speaks to whether a 4-year college is right for many kids, or not. There are many college grads with huge debt burdens, with little or no career prospects that would have been much better off going to trade school. Yes, the major is important, but I assume how well they did in college is important as well.
This is all just part of someone's (Russia's? the Republicans? North Korea's?) effort to attack U.S. universities. The attack is solely about neutralizing opposition to corruption and tyranny. It has nothing whatsoever to do with college costs or what's best for the kids.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 10:09
Subject: Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
I graduated with a 2.2 GPA from undergrad. I’m currently employed as an attorney. Undergraduate GPA isn’t the end of things
Anonymous
01/27/2023 10:04
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many do.
How can you not know that?
Easy it literally says on the job posting LOL.
Many companies do have a 3.0 min. Which is why some people go to grad school to change their gpa.
C's get degrees it's what a student does with their degree that is important.
Clever deflection, troll.
Many colleges require maintaining a minimum GPA.
But since this thread is about GPAs and entry level jobs let me ask you all this...
Do you interview the C student from Harvard/Yale/Princeton or the "A" student from the school no one has ever heard of?
Anonymous
01/27/2023 10:01
Subject: Re:Why don't colleges require students to maintain the same minimum gpa they would need to get a job?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do employers actually ask for GPA? I’ve never heard of that.
Yes, for a new grad many companies require a 3.0 to even interview you.
GEICO is one such company.
However, I know plenty of college graduates that did fine in life with a 2.5 GPA LOL.
There are rules and there are ways to work around those rules.
Yes, GEICO requires it but it is NOT mandatory. In my department at GEICO, we recently hired three grads with between 2.1 and 2.7 GPAs. It is like jaywalking is against the law but nobody enforces it.