Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

Correct.

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Anonymous wrote:She is a devout Catholic.

I get it. I am not religious but I would probably 'sage' my house or something. It is traumatizing.

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Saging your home is culturally appropriating Native religion and culture. Some people do not sell sacred sages to non Native people because it’s offensive and wrong for people to use a sacred herb and ceremony so lightly and without the proper context and skill.

‘Sage’ or “something” from pp adds credibility to that protective stance.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

One who is refused communion

And yet she was warmly received by Pope Francis. Watch the new documentary HBOMax.

Anonymous wrote:She is a devout Catholic.

I get it. I am not religious but I would probably 'sage' my house or something. It is traumatizing.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/nancy-pelosi-had-priests-perform-exorcism-on-house-after-husband-pauls-attack

Nancy Pelosi had priests perform an exorcism on her house in the wake of the brutal attack that left her husband Paul hospitalized, her daughter told The New York Times. “I think that weighed really heavy on her soul. I think she felt really guilty. I think that really broke her,” Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra told Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

Apparently Nancy thinks evil spirits or demonic creatures are in her home.

I’m the atheist who is pointing out OPs bigotry (and while I’m at it, several other PPs but I’m not going to quote them; they are probably OP sock puppeting anyhow).

The bolded is the bigoted part. You know nothing of Pelosi’s reasoning or thought process, and the derision in the bolded sentence is clear. Don’t try to squirm away from your open bigotry, OP. I’m done with the thread now as I don’t post where bigots do once I’ve spoken up, so won’t respond further. OP, you are a bigot. Nothing more to say.

-atheist

Questions about Exorcism

What is an exorcism?

Exorcism is a specific form of prayer that the Church uses against the power of the devil.

https://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/sacraments-and-sacramentals/sacramentals-blessings/exorcism

Nancy is a lifelong Catholic and knows what she wanted in her home.

Why does the Church need exorcisms?

There are instances when a person needs to be protected against the power of the devil or to be withdrawn from his spiritual dominion. At such times, the Church asks publicly and authoritatively in the name of Jesus Christ for this protection or liberation through the use of exorcism.

Are there different kinds of exorcisms?

Exorcisms are divided into two kinds (or forms). Simple or minor forms of exorcism are found in two places: first, for those preparing for Baptism, the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (RCIA) and the Rite of Baptism for Children both call for minor exorcisms; secondly, the appendix of Exorcisms and Related Supplications includes a series of prayers which may be used by the faithful.

The second kind is the solemn or "major exorcism," which is a rite that can only be performed by a bishop or a by priest, with the special and express permission of the local ordinary (cf. Code of Canon Law, can. 1172). This form is directed "at the expulsion of demons or to the liberation [of a person] from demonic possession" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 1673).

What is the difference between a major exorcism and a minor exorcism?

While both forms of exorcism are directed against the power of the devil, the Rite of Major Exorcism is employed only when there is a case of genuine demonic possession, namely, when it is determined that the presence of the devil is in the body of the possessed and the devil is able to exercise dominion over that body.

Minor exorcisms are prayers used to break the influence of evil and sin in a person's life, whether as a catechumen preparing for Baptism or as one of the Baptized faithful striving to overcome the influence of evil and sin in his or her life.

I read these and they seem informative and helpful. None of this info is bigoted; it’s directly from the Catholic church.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/nancy-pelosi-had-priests-perform-exorcism-on-house-after-husband-pauls-attack

Nancy Pelosi had priests perform an exorcism on her house in the wake of the brutal attack that left her husband Paul hospitalized, her daughter told The New York Times. “I think that weighed really heavy on her soul. I think she felt really guilty. I think that really broke her,” Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra told Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

Apparently Nancy thinks evil spirits or demonic creatures are in her home.

I’m the atheist who is pointing out OPs bigotry (and while I’m at it, several other PPs but I’m not going to quote them; they are probably OP sock puppeting anyhow).

The bolded is the bigoted part. You know nothing of Pelosi’s reasoning or thought process, and the derision in the bolded sentence is clear. Don’t try to squirm away from your open bigotry, OP. I’m done with the thread now as I don’t post where bigots do once I’ve spoken up, so won’t respond further. OP, you are a bigot. Nothing more to say.

-atheist

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

One who is refused communion

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Anonymous wrote:NP. She is devoutly Catholic. She’s been devoutly Catholic for years. She feels unsafe in her home for truly understandable reasons. She had a priest perform a sacrament of her long-time religion so she could feel safer in her home. I fail to see any issues here at all.

You just seem like an anti-Catholic bigot OP. And I’m an atheist.

What? I am not anti-Catholic? How is discussing this information anti-Catholic?

You jumped to derogatory conclusions over her reasoning. You have no idea what she thinks. You are an anti-Catholic bigot. If you had wanted to discuss what happened you would have stuck to facts and not editorialized. Be honest with yourself, please, though I realize that is asking the impossible of a bigot.

-atheist.

Nope, there are no derogatory conclusions drawn by me. The sacrament is by definition to repel the devil or demonic activity. I don’t personally define the Catholic sacrament of exorcism, pp.

According to her daughter, Alexandra, 'Over Thanksgiving, [Pelosi] had priests coming, trying to have an exorcism of the house and having prayer services.'

The Democrat's daughter was discussing the attack on her father Paul Pelosi, 82, during an interview with the New York Times, when she mentioned the Catholic ritual for ridding demons from specific persons and spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. She is devoutly Catholic. She’s been devoutly Catholic for years. She feels unsafe in her home for truly understandable reasons. She had a priest perform a sacrament of her long-time religion so she could feel safer in her home. I fail to see any issues here at all.

You just seem like an anti-Catholic bigot OP. And I’m an atheist.

What? I am not anti-Catholic? How is discussing this information anti-Catholic?

You jumped to derogatory conclusions over her reasoning. You have no idea what she thinks. You are an anti-Catholic bigot. If you had wanted to discuss what happened you would have stuck to facts and not editorialized. Be honest with yourself, please, though I realize that is asking the impossible of a bigot.

-atheist.

Anonymous wrote:NP. She is devoutly Catholic. She’s been devoutly Catholic for years. She feels unsafe in her home for truly understandable reasons. She had a priest perform a sacrament of her long-time religion so she could feel safer in her home. I fail to see any issues here at all.

You just seem like an anti-Catholic bigot OP. And I’m an atheist.

What? I am not anti-Catholic? How is discussing this information anti-Catholic?

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

You don’t know who is legit religious; only God knows that.

I can imagine if a republican had their home exorcised, what people would think and say, though.

+ 1 million

Nope. Not in this case. In this case, we all know.

PP here. Hate to break it to you, but you are not God.

If Joel Osteen or anyone else got on tv or stage and claimed he knew who was religious and who was not, people here would immediately attack him. Yet pp has the nerve to speak for a bunch of people, and say “we know who is truly religious and who is not.”

Seriously, you don’t know. Only God knows.

NP. She is devoutly Catholic. She’s been devoutly Catholic for years. She feels unsafe in her home for truly understandable reasons. She had a priest perform a sacrament of her long-time religion so she could feel safer in her home. I fail to see any issues here at all.

You just seem like an anti-Catholic bigot OP. And I’m an atheist.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible that she simply asked a priest to come and bless her home by saying a prayer and maybe sprinkling some holy water?

That sounds way more likely than an exorcism. It is not at all uncommon for Catholics to have a home blessing ceremony when they move into a new house or, in this case, when something bad has happened there.

No, her daughter specifically said an exorcism. Read the source.

No, it's the same thing just different words. And the non-believers are just overblowing it because they know that "exorcism" has a devil meaning to the ignorant.

Yes, this is basically the priest re blessing the house. Catholics do that all the time. My grandmother would be appalled I never had my house blessed.

Procedure for the Minor Exorcism of a Place

A minor exorcism of place, such as exorcizing a home, may be prayed by any priest with faculties to minister within the Archdiocese.

Those seeking the blessing or exorcism of their home or business should contact their local parish priest.

If Nancy wanted her home blessed, that’s different. Catholics can have their homes blessed or exorcised. Her home, according to her daughter, was definitely exorcised.

What an odd post, given the text you excerpted did not show a significant difference between the two.

I think they are two different sacraments. That’s what is says. An exorcism is specifically to expel the devil.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible that she simply asked a priest to come and bless her home by saying a prayer and maybe sprinkling some holy water?

That sounds way more likely than an exorcism. It is not at all uncommon for Catholics to have a home blessing ceremony when they move into a new house or, in this case, when something bad has happened there.

No, her daughter specifically said an exorcism. Read the source.

No, it's the same thing just different words. And the non-believers are just overblowing it because they know that "exorcism" has a devil meaning to the ignorant.

Yes, this is basically the priest re blessing the house. Catholics do that all the time. My grandmother would be appalled I never had my house blessed.

Procedure for the Minor Exorcism of a Place

A minor exorcism of place, such as exorcizing a home, may be prayed by any priest with faculties to minister within the Archdiocese.

Those seeking the blessing or exorcism of their home or business should contact their local parish priest.

If Nancy wanted her home blessed, that’s different. Catholics can have their homes blessed or exorcised. Her home, according to her daughter, was definitely exorcised.

What an odd post, given the text you excerpted did not show a significant difference between the two.