Anonymous
Post 01/23/2023 10:21     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just hearing that there was potential an overdose at BCC? Not sure, but concerning images are being passed around on social media.
it was 2 intoxicated students... So drunk but not an overdose.


Got it. Well, MCPS has its hands full!
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2023 10:18     Subject: Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:Yep, with the fentanyl situation and the large number of counterfeit pills circulating, experimentation is dangerous. You don't have to have a "drug problem" to OD


+1 A boy at my son's college died from fentanyl in a (he thought) Adderall pill he'd bought as a study aid. You need to let your kids know how dangerous it is to take any pill they didn't directly get from a pharmacy.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2023 10:05     Subject: Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:No OP it is not worse.

Social media and the news if it bleeds it leads.


You are wrong. The amount of people trying to get into recovery is off the charts, the once a week programs are full, the PHP programs are full, the counselors say they have never had so many people inquiring about treatment.

I am sure you are one of the "not my kid" group.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2023 09:57     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:Just hearing that there was potential an overdose at BCC? Not sure, but concerning images are being passed around on social media.
it was 2 intoxicated students... So drunk but not an overdose.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2023 09:51     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Just hearing that there was potential an overdose at BCC? Not sure, but concerning images are being passed around on social media.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 21:47     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:Kids naturally rebel.

Pot served that purpose when it was illegal. Now that it is not they have to go to harder drugs.


This.

Legalizing pot was an incredibly bad idea. It is SO bad at our MCPS high school.

And the other drug use has definitely gotten/will get even worse.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 21:34     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the drug problem is as bad as you heard. The school system is doing nothing about it.


Because they don't have the resources to monitor it. If they kept SROs it would be different. The principal at our HS predicted it would happen when all the liberals voted to legalize weed.


Is it really that much worse since legalization? I was in HS 30 years ago and weed was still everywhere.


Difference is it was illegal back then and kids were more discreet about it. Now, kids think they can bring it to school, smoke in the bathrooms, and nothing will happen to them..and they're right.


Yeah, I remember kids smoking it at parties and if you were the kind of geeky kid who never went to parties, you never saw it. Or my siblings that grew up in a more backwater town kids would cut class and smoke it in the woods near the school. Now I smell it everywhere just walking around, and my kids say the HS bathrooms all smell like weed. That’s not great. I voted against legalization, not because it really think it should be criminal, but because I wanted there to be enough of a no vote that the regulators realize it’s not like selling junk food.


The bad thing is, now that school administrators have accepted weed as the norm and no one is monitoring it, it's become easy to bring the harmful drugs to school.


And, yet, where are they getting the money to buy it? Why are the parents ok with it and not monitoring it?

Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 21:32     Subject: Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course I know there are always drugs. But sounds like rampant pot smoking in high schools plus several overdosing stories occurring at school. What’s going on? Same problem as we have had for decades or is it worse?

You need some more nuance in your question. Is the pot problem as bad as it sounds? No. Kids have been smoking pot in HS for decades. I'm hopeful that the legalization of pot will stop the dealing and relegate pot to just an issue of students being impaired, similar to drinking.

Is the fentanyl/opiod problem as bad as it sounds? Not yet, but that is why they are sounding the alarm bells. If you heard fatalities went up by 120% last year, recognize that actual numbers went from 5 to 11 fatalities. Not good, but percentages make it seem worse. However, the increasing overdoses combined with another death last week have made it urgent to work to educate parents and the community about the problem. Teens are curious. They don't have to be into drugs to make a poor choice one time and try a pill that ends up killing them. And even if you are sure your kid would never do that, they are affected when a classmate does, and then dies. As a community, we need to understand that it is an urgent problem and educate our teens about the problem and also how to support their peers to not get involved with drugs.



This is just wrong. We’re not talking about kids smoking joints like in the 60s and 70s and when we were teens. We’re talking about high-concentration, often adulterated THC carts that are very easy to hide. Vaping is dangerous. Sorry to burst your bubble, PP.

As for fentanyl, ask any parent whose kid has died of an overdose. You probably know one. Everyone does now.


There have always been serious issues with drugs and alcohol and it changes each decade or so. What do you want MCPS to do? They aren't allowed to search the kids stuff upon entry?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 21:29     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the drug problem is as bad as you heard. The school system is doing nothing about it.


Families are doing nothing about it, wanting their kids to be parented by the school system. Wake up, your kid more than likely is exposed to drugs/drinking at any private social gathering. Don't assume because they are at a friend's house or hanging out in your basement that they are making good choices. All it takes is a one-time experimentation and they can OD. I went to a funeral last summer of a HS kid, it broke the family and they thought 'it can never happen' to their DC. Educate and talk to your kids honestly about drugs.


Are you kidding me?

Parents are responsible for their kids and what happens in the home and outside of the school.

MCPS is responsible for what happens INSIDE the school. They literally have a DUTY OF CARE for these minors.

The woman who lost her child to an overdose, literally complained that no one, not law enforcement, not MCPS school officials or the healthcare system helped her when her daughter got hooked on drugs. She complained that the school knew her daughter was using drugs at the school in the bathroom and DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. Parents are not IN the school buildings with the kids. MCPS is literally responsible for student behavior inside the school buildings.

What the hell are you talking about?


What is MCPS supposed to do? The parent should have gotten them treatment. The county offers free treatment.

Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 18:14     Subject: Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course I know there are always drugs. But sounds like rampant pot smoking in high schools plus several overdosing stories occurring at school. What’s going on? Same problem as we have had for decades or is it worse?

You need some more nuance in your question. Is the pot problem as bad as it sounds? No. Kids have been smoking pot in HS for decades. I'm hopeful that the legalization of pot will stop the dealing and relegate pot to just an issue of students being impaired, similar to drinking.

Is the fentanyl/opiod problem as bad as it sounds? Not yet, but that is why they are sounding the alarm bells. If you heard fatalities went up by 120% last year, recognize that actual numbers went from 5 to 11 fatalities. Not good, but percentages make it seem worse. However, the increasing overdoses combined with another death last week have made it urgent to work to educate parents and the community about the problem. Teens are curious. They don't have to be into drugs to make a poor choice one time and try a pill that ends up killing them. And even if you are sure your kid would never do that, they are affected when a classmate does, and then dies. As a community, we need to understand that it is an urgent problem and educate our teens about the problem and also how to support their peers to not get involved with drugs.



This is just wrong. We’re not talking about kids smoking joints like in the 60s and 70s and when we were teens. We’re talking about high-concentration, often adulterated THC carts that are very easy to hide. Vaping is dangerous. Sorry to burst your bubble, PP.

As for fentanyl, ask any parent whose kid has died of an overdose. You probably know one. Everyone does now.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 18:11     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the drug problem is as bad as you heard. The school system is doing nothing about it.


Families are doing nothing about it, wanting their kids to be parented by the school system. Wake up, your kid more than likely is exposed to drugs/drinking at any private social gathering. Don't assume because they are at a friend's house or hanging out in your basement that they are making good choices. All it takes is a one-time experimentation and they can OD. I went to a funeral last summer of a HS kid, it broke the family and they thought 'it can never happen' to their DC. Educate and talk to your kids honestly about drugs.

Looks like the MCPS PR Dept found this thread. Never is MCPS culpable for anything. Alway parents or society or something.


Seriously. The laffy taffy logic being applied to absolve MCPS of liability and accountability here is astounding.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 18:10     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the drug problem is as bad as you heard. The school system is doing nothing about it.


Families are doing nothing about it, wanting their kids to be parented by the school system. Wake up, your kid more than likely is exposed to drugs/drinking at any private social gathering. Don't assume because they are at a friend's house or hanging out in your basement that they are making good choices. All it takes is a one-time experimentation and they can OD. I went to a funeral last summer of a HS kid, it broke the family and they thought 'it can never happen' to their DC. Educate and talk to your kids honestly about drugs.


Are you kidding me?

Parents are responsible for their kids and what happens in the home and outside of the school.

MCPS is responsible for what happens INSIDE the school. They literally have a DUTY OF CARE for these minors.

The woman who lost her child to an overdose, literally complained that no one, not law enforcement, not MCPS school officials or the healthcare system helped her when her daughter got hooked on drugs. She complained that the school knew her daughter was using drugs at the school in the bathroom and DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. Parents are not IN the school buildings with the kids. MCPS is literally responsible for student behavior inside the school buildings.

What the hell are you talking about?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 17:52     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

*district
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 17:48     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the drug problem is as bad as you heard. The school system is doing nothing about it.


Families are doing nothing about it, wanting their kids to be parented by the school system. Wake up, your kid more than likely is exposed to drugs/drinking at any private social gathering. Don't assume because they are at a friend's house or hanging out in your basement that they are making good choices. All it takes is a one-time experimentation and they can OD. I went to a funeral last summer of a HS kid, it broke the family and they thought 'it can never happen' to their DC. Educate and talk to your kids honestly about drugs.

Looks like the MCPS PR Dept found this thread. Never is MCPS culpable for anything. Alway parents or society or something.


Nice try, troll. I'm a MCPS parent and a HS teacher outside of MCPS, but comparable demographics. Hold the disctrict, yourself and your child accountable. Period.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 17:26     Subject: Re:Is the drug problem as bad as it sounds?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the drug problem is as bad as you heard. The school system is doing nothing about it.


Families are doing nothing about it, wanting their kids to be parented by the school system. Wake up, your kid more than likely is exposed to drugs/drinking at any private social gathering. Don't assume because they are at a friend's house or hanging out in your basement that they are making good choices. All it takes is a one-time experimentation and they can OD. I went to a funeral last summer of a HS kid, it broke the family and they thought 'it can never happen' to their DC. Educate and talk to your kids honestly about drugs.

Looks like the MCPS PR Dept found this thread. Never is MCPS culpable for anything. Alway parents or society or something.

Yep. Exactly. All the problems with kids today is solely because of MCPS. They just aren’t raising our kids right. And they expect the parents to parent their own kids?!? The nerve of MCPS.