Anonymous wrote:The cohort claiming victimhood, racism, anti-trans bias, speech-as-violence, etc. are meanwhile taking over the institutions of soft power--namely colleges and media companies. White men--the convenient, lazy stand-in for all that is and ever was evil in the world--are dropping out of the workforce and make up smaller and smaller portions of college student bodies. I'm still trying to decide if this is a brilliant, intentional strategy by the woke elite, or just a comedic final act in the decline of the West.

The cohort that is non white men has plenty of people that excel at college and media and carrying on the business of the west just fine. Relax.

Anonymous wrote:I always find it ironic that the people b*t hung the most about victim hood culture are privileged, older, white men who have always tried to silence others.

I’m a Gen X latchkey kid who had to pay my dues and fulfill so many stupid rules because I was being fed a line. I thin it’s awesome that these kids don’t play with fools and advocate for themselves.

Another Gen Xer on team Gen Z.

You can't leave generations of kids to raise themselves on TV (us), or Social Media (them) and have things go exactly where you want.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read it but DH did and Haidt apparently said that haidt thinks that it should be illegal for kids under 16 to have social media.

I cannot take Haidt seriously since he said that college students are babies because a few college students wanted an absurd level of trigger warnings, but I’d love it if we could somehow stop kids under 16 from having social media. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Politically and socially left kid of a professor and I agree with Haidt.

Cell phones and social media for under 16 will be like cigarettes . And the trigger warnings are out of control. Some are good. But like therapy animals, it’s becoming absurd.

Gen Z had some great ideas then went totally overboard with them.

The oldest Gen Zs are in their mid-20s. These ideas weren't theirs, they just grew up having to navigate through good ideas taken too far.

Anonymous wrote:The cohort claiming victimhood, racism, anti-trans bias, speech-as-violence, etc. are meanwhile taking over the institutions of soft power--namely colleges and media companies. White men--the convenient, lazy stand-in for all that is and ever was evil in the world--are dropping out of the workforce and make up smaller and smaller portions of college student bodies. I'm still trying to decide if this is a brilliant, intentional strategy by the woke elite, or just a comedic final act in the decline of the West.

Agree that it's pretty nuts. We (Gen X and Millennials) have really screwed up somewhere. Sorry.

The cohort claiming victimhood, racism, anti-trans bias, speech-as-violence, etc. are meanwhile taking over the institutions of soft power--namely colleges and media companies. White men--the convenient, lazy stand-in for all that is and ever was evil in the world--are dropping out of the workforce and make up smaller and smaller portions of college student bodies. I'm still trying to decide if this is a brilliant, intentional strategy by the woke elite, or just a comedic final act in the decline of the West.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boo hoo

Y’all just hate to be called out for bullshit, it’s not victimhoid.

Everybody want to be able to be a bad actor without being called out and when they are called out they fall apart.., cry cancel culture, cry victjmhoid caused this.

Don’t be a f’ing a-hole and you won’t be called out.

Pointing it out is not victim complex.

Stop acting like being tested like sh!t and keeping your mouth shut was a badge of honor, it was cowardly.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

m

Say u can’t get past the paywall without saying..

DP. You're wrong though. White men are the ones who are confident enough to complain about cancel culture and "victimhood". Women just watch from the sidelines - except here on DCUM, where we are all safely anonymous.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boo hoo

Y’all just hate to be called out for bullshit, it’s not victimhoid.

Everybody want to be able to be a bad actor without being called out and when they are called out they fall apart.., cry cancel culture, cry victjmhoid caused this.

Don’t be a f’ing a-hole and you won’t be called out.

Pointing it out is not victim complex.

Stop acting like being tested like sh!t and keeping your mouth shut was a badge of honor, it was cowardly.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

m

Say u can’t get past the paywall without saying..

If you think victjmhoid is a word then I don't know what to tell you. The above post is nothing but gibberish.

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read it but DH did and Haidt apparently said that haidt thinks that it should be illegal for kids under 16 to have social media.

I cannot take Haidt seriously since he said that college students are babies because a few college students wanted an absurd level of trigger warnings, but I’d love it if we could somehow stop kids under 16 from having social media. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Politically and socially left kid of a professor and I agree with Haidt.

Cell phones and social media for under 16 will be like cigarettes . And the trigger warnings are out of control. Some are good. But like therapy animals, it’s becoming absurd.

Gen Z had some great ideas then went totally overboard with them.

Anonymous wrote:So basically, Haidt’s cohort did a shitty job raising their kids but he wants to blame it on the children instead ofntakignnreaponsibilitybfienti. Classic boomer.

Boomers are grandparents. You are looking to blame Gen x and millennials.

Anonymous wrote:Boo hoo

Y’all just hate to be called out for bullshit, it’s not victimhoid.

Everybody want to be able to be a bad actor without being called out and when they are called out they fall apart.., cry cancel culture, cry victjmhoid caused this.

Don’t be a f’ing a-hole and you won’t be called out.

Pointing it out is not victim complex.

Stop acting like being tested like sh!t and keeping your mouth shut was a badge of honor, it was cowardly.

Exhibit A of why kids are reluctant to open their mouths. There's no room for nuanced discussion in forums like this.

However, my older Gen Z son made me feel better about real-life discussions, which gives me hope for my younger kids. Social media makes it appear as though the world is just a population of groups waiting to attack if you use the wrong language or make an unintentional mistake. The amazing thing about Gen Z is that they can't understand why everyone wouldn't want to do what they can to treat everyone with respect and make them feel included. My son assured me that the real world isn't like social media. Most people appreciate your efforts to be inclusive, use appropriate pronouns, and banish old-fashioned language that is now viewed as offensive but won't humiliate you if you make a mistake. You need to care, you need to try, and if you make a mistake, you need to apologize and resolve to do better the next time. That's it.

Still, as a parent of Gen Zs who aren't adults (and a liberal), I agree with some of what Haidt is saying. To me, the complaints about the impact of social media and victim culture are related, and the problem starts with how our parenting reflects some of our own confusion with a changing world. Haidt is not chastising Gen Zs for being open about mental health challenges. Instead, he is noting that in a world where words are considered to be "violence," it becomes more common to assume a defensive position so as not to hurt others or impact their mental health adversely. We need to care about others, but when any mistake you make can be captured on film and put up for all the world to see, it's hard to have the confidence to put yourself out there.

Here's a quote (note how Haidt is talking about the oldest of Gen Z, not as another poster pointed out, the part of the generation not yet in the working world):

He concedes that his judgment of Gen Z may be premature: “It could be that you’ll see some impact in three or four years, by the time they’re 30. But I’m predicting that they will be less effective, less impactful, than previous generations.” Why? “You should always keep your eye on whether people are in ‘discover mode’ or ‘defend mode.’ ” In the former mode, you seize opportunities to be creative. In the latter, “you’re not creative, you’re not future-thinking, you’re focused on threats in the present.”

That bolded line resonates with me, especially in connection with my parenting. In trying to raise my kids to be good human beings in this world, am I raising them to be unapologetically themselves, or am I raising them to stay safe and not screw up in the moment? Am I urging them not to get in trouble by repeatedly telling them what not to do, say or be, as or am I supporting them as they grow into who they are? If every word and action is subject to being scrutinized and interpreted negatively, it's hard to connect with others and live a fully realized life.

I always find it ironic that the people b*t hung the most about victim hood culture are privileged, older, white men who have always tried to silence others.

I’m a Gen X latchkey kid who had to pay my dues and fulfill so many stupid rules because I was being fed a line. I thin it’s awesome that these kids don’t play with fools and advocate for themselves.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boo hoo

Y’all just hate to be called out for bullshit, it’s not victimhoid.

Everybody want to be able to be a bad actor without being called out and when they are called out they fall apart.., cry cancel culture, cry victjmhoid caused this.

Don’t be a f’ing a-hole and you won’t be called out.

Pointing it out is not victim complex.

Stop acting like being tested like sh!t and keeping your mouth shut was a badge of honor, it was cowardly.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

m

Say u can’t get past the paywall without saying..

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same stuff they said about TV when we were growing up. Yawn on the mansplaining.

TV?

OMG are you old. And clueless.

His old are you? 12?

Yes they said, tv would ruin us, then computers, then women in the workplace, then women in the armed services.

Take a history class.

Anonymous wrote:Boo hoo

Y’all just hate to be called out for bullshit, it’s not victimhoid.

Everybody want to be able to be a bad actor without being called out and when they are called out they fall apart.., cry cancel culture, cry victjmhoid caused this.

Don’t be a f’ing a-hole and you won’t be called out.

Pointing it out is not victim complex.

Stop acting like being tested like sh!t and keeping your mouth shut was a badge of honor, it was cowardly.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Boo hoo

Y’all just hate to be called out for bullshit, it’s not victimhoid.

Everybody want to be able to be a bad actor without being called out and when they are called out they fall apart.., cry cancel culture, cry victjmhoid caused this.

Don’t be a f’ing a-hole and you won’t be called out.

Pointing it out is not victim complex.

Stop acting like being tested like sh!t and keeping your mouth shut was a badge of honor, it was cowardly.