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Anonymous wrote:If they changed the start time for HS where I work, teens would leave school early to pick up their younger siblings. I'd say 60-70% of my kindergarten students are picked up by their MS and HS siblings.

Because they can. Schools would adjust.

At least 60% of families in your class have children who are in kindergarten and in MS or HS (5 or more year age gap)?

If start times change, there will have to be a way to adjust. Assuming that you are talking able low-income families, having exhausted high school students assume responsibility for younger siblings hampers their academic progress (and furthers achievement gaps).

Also, do they not have buses at your school?

No buses except for special ed students. We have Hispanic families with tons of siblings of all ages in ES, MS and HS. It isn't unusual to have a sibling from the same family every 2-3 yrs. These families don't have the means for babysitters and the younger kids would just sit in the office after school if nobody could pick them up. There would be a lot of them there.

That is not a reason to start school at an early time for older kids.

Of course it is. It might not be a reason you find compelling, but "lots of our students have family obligations later in the day" is a reason to start them earlier.

Family obligations are not for teens nor should it been forced upon those who don’t have sibling to “raise.” You are wrong and not looking for what is appropriate for teens.

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Anonymous wrote:If they changed the start time for HS where I work, teens would leave school early to pick up their younger siblings. I'd say 60-70% of my kindergarten students are picked up by their MS and HS siblings.

Because they can. Schools would adjust.

At least 60% of families in your class have children who are in kindergarten and in MS or HS (5 or more year age gap)?

If start times change, there will have to be a way to adjust. Assuming that you are talking able low-income families, having exhausted high school students assume responsibility for younger siblings hampers their academic progress (and furthers achievement gaps).

Also, do they not have buses at your school?

No buses except for special ed students. We have Hispanic families with tons of siblings of all ages in ES, MS and HS. It isn't unusual to have a sibling from the same family every 2-3 yrs. These families don't have the means for babysitters and the younger kids would just sit in the office after school if nobody could pick them up. There would be a lot of them there.

That is not a reason to start school at an early time for older kids.

Of course it is. It might not be a reason you find compelling, but "lots of our students have family obligations later in the day" is a reason to start them earlier.

Family obligations are not for teens nor should it been forced upon those who don’t have sibling to “raise.” You are wrong and not looking for what is appropriate for teens.

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Anonymous wrote:If they changed the start time for HS where I work, teens would leave school early to pick up their younger siblings. I'd say 60-70% of my kindergarten students are picked up by their MS and HS siblings.

Because they can. Schools would adjust.

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Anonymous wrote:If they changed the start time for HS where I work, teens would leave school early to pick up their younger siblings. I'd say 60-70% of my kindergarten students are picked up by their MS and HS siblings.

Because they can. Schools would adjust.

At least 60% of families in your class have children who are in kindergarten and in MS or HS (5 or more year age gap)?

If start times change, there will have to be a way to adjust. Assuming that you are talking able low-income families, having exhausted high school students assume responsibility for younger siblings hampers their academic progress (and furthers achievement gaps).

Also, do they not have buses at your school?

No buses except for special ed students. We have Hispanic families with tons of siblings of all ages in ES, MS and HS. It isn't unusual to have a sibling from the same family every 2-3 yrs. These families don't have the means for babysitters and the younger kids would just sit in the office after school if nobody could pick them up. There would be a lot of them there.

That is not a reason to start school at an early time for older kids.

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Anonymous wrote:If they changed the start time for HS where I work, teens would leave school early to pick up their younger siblings. I'd say 60-70% of my kindergarten students are picked up by their MS and HS siblings.

Because they can. Schools would adjust.

At least 60% of families in your class have children who are in kindergarten and in MS or HS (5 or more year age gap)?

If start times change, there will have to be a way to adjust. Assuming that you are talking able low-income families, having exhausted high school students assume responsibility for younger siblings hampers their academic progress (and furthers achievement gaps).

Also, do they not have buses at your school?

No buses except for special ed students. We have Hispanic families with tons of siblings of all ages in ES, MS and HS. It isn't unusual to have a sibling from the same family every 2-3 yrs. These families don't have the means for babysitters and the younger kids would just sit in the office after school if nobody could pick them up. There would be a lot of them there.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.

No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.

this is American BS. Teenage Humans around the world manage to get up early to go to school, work etc…. They go to bed earlier. Common denominator in the US is social media/screens and teens.

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Anonymous wrote:This start time is pretty typical everywhere. DC is the anomaly, and I love it for my kids.

Loudoun also has a reversed schedule. Our local highschool starts at 9:30am. The local elementary bus picks up the kids at 6:30am (which is ridiculous imo) and the school day (elem) starts at 7:15am.

The highschoolers don't get out of school until close to 4:30pm (4:20ish), then don't get home until close to 5:00pm. From what I've heard, those that do sports/activities/etc. and are academically motivated wind up going to bed after midnight by the time they fit in all of their commitments and homework. So the lack of sleep can be the same as those with an early schedule, just shifted.

No, their body clock dictates that around 11 pm is aligned with when they get tired to go to sleep. If you send a teen to bed at 9, they’ll just lie awake.

I don’t care of my kids lie awake. They go to bed when I tell them. Getting home that late means kids miss outside activities or have to do them before school. So, it’s swim at 4pm or swim at 4 am.

Which is fine. So if they don't fall asleep until 10:30 or 11 p.m., how is your superior parenting helping them to get enough sleep. That the natural times for teens to fall asleep.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.

No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.

Its funny how the need to be at a job just a few years later makes it ok.

How many people have to be at work at 7:45 AM 5 days a week?

High school teachers 😂😂

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Anonymous wrote:This start time is pretty typical everywhere. DC is the anomaly, and I love it for my kids.

Loudoun also has a reversed schedule. Our local highschool starts at 9:30am. The local elementary bus picks up the kids at 6:30am (which is ridiculous imo) and the school day (elem) starts at 7:15am.

The highschoolers don't get out of school until close to 4:30pm (4:20ish), then don't get home until close to 5:00pm. From what I've heard, those that do sports/activities/etc. and are academically motivated wind up going to bed after midnight by the time they fit in all of their commitments and homework. So the lack of sleep can be the same as those with an early schedule, just shifted.

No, their body clock dictates that around 11 pm is aligned with when they get tired to go to sleep. If you send a teen to bed at 9, they’ll just lie awake.

I don’t care of my kids lie awake. They go to bed when I tell them. Getting home that late means kids miss outside activities or have to do them before school. So, it’s swim at 4pm or swim at 4 am.

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Anonymous wrote:In an ideal world all schools would start between 8/830. This can’t happen because of how complicated our system is so this is what we have.

If we funded an increase the number of MCPS school busses, the system would become less complicated.

Anonymous wrote:In an ideal world all schools would start between 8/830. This can’t happen because of how complicated our system is so this is what we have.