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Anonymous wrote:Not all schools have grade inflation. That'a actually a benefit of many private schools. They don't inflate grades so colleges have a better read on an applicant. No retakes means their students get what they get. No need to try to figure out of the grade is the result of multiple attempts.

My 10th grader has no retakes at MCPS all honors and AP classes, the only grades that are “easy” are Health and Music. The rest he has to work for, and has high Bs currently in two classes! (The horror!)I also have a child at an “intense” private in DC. They have to study more for an A, but not that much. I think this comment I heard people throw around of “all public schools have inflated grades” is not true. School and Teacher dependent. My private school student can raise test grades with test corrections, while my public school kid has teachers who do not allow retakes and will not raise grade with test corrections. Go figure?

No one said all publics have inflated grades or that no private schools have inflated grades, just that there are more public schools with obvious grade inflation than private schools in the DMV.

Name one and provide supporting evidence.

Anonymous wrote:Why do we care about a six year old article in Edweek? All one has to do is compare percentage of class graduating with 4.0 at local publics v. Local privates
When many of the pubkic schools have 20 percent or more of kids with 4.0, that’s grade inflation. You won’t find that at top local private schools. Not sure why there is even a dispute about this.

So you have any data to support that actually happening?

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Anonymous wrote:Not all schools have grade inflation. That'a actually a benefit of many private schools. They don't inflate grades so colleges have a better read on an applicant. No retakes means their students get what they get. No need to try to figure out of the grade is the result of multiple attempts.

My 10th grader has no retakes at MCPS all honors and AP classes, the only grades that are “easy” are Health and Music. The rest he has to work for, and has high Bs currently in two classes! (The horror!)I also have a child at an “intense” private in DC. They have to study more for an A, but not that much. I think this comment I heard people throw around of “all public schools have inflated grades” is not true. School and Teacher dependent. My private school student can raise test grades with test corrections, while my public school kid has teachers who do not allow retakes and will not raise grade with test corrections. Go figure?

No one said all publics have inflated grades or that no private schools have inflated grades, just that there are more public schools with obvious grade inflation than private schools in the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

Not true in the UC system. UC Berkeley is 36% Asian, 22% White.

And if Berkeley was "race blind" in their admissions, do you think it would be more than 36% Asian? A qualified student should not be denied admission because of their race, in favor of a less qualified student of a different ("under represented" race.)

This is why AOs reject certain kids. Once they discovered that their parents are racist, they predict that the apple does not fall far from the tree. It is a racist trope to assume that the URM student is less qualified. In many cases they are more qualified. Please take your racism and fragility someone else because you do not speak for Asians. Also, it is most definitely white supremacist ideology which bemoans the 2-3% of URM students that are attending these predominately wealthy and white institutions.

For all this talk about URMs, the majority of top universities in the United States are overwhelmingly white and wealthy. URMs are not even 10% or in most cases 5% of the student population, however you will not attack the admission of less qualified legacy and athletic students because as long as they are white it is okay.

Anonymous wrote:Not all schools have grade inflation. That'a actually a benefit of many private schools. They don't inflate grades so colleges have a better read on an applicant. No retakes means their students get what they get. No need to try to figure out of the grade is the result of multiple attempts.

My 10th grader has no retakes at MCPS all honors and AP classes, the only grades that are “easy” are Health and Music. The rest he has to work for, and has high Bs currently in two classes! (The horror!)I also have a child at an “intense” private in DC. They have to study more for an A, but not that much. I think this comment I heard people throw around of “all public schools have inflated grades” is not true. School and Teacher dependent. My private school student can raise test grades with test corrections, while my public school kid has teachers who do not allow retakes and will not raise grade with test corrections. Go figure?

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Anonymous wrote:Course rigor
Grades
Preparation for potential major/career
AP scores
SAT/ACT scores (if they're strong and school isn't test-blind)
Activities (depth and breadth)
Leadership
Grit
Teacher recommendations
Counselor recommendations (for understanding of the school community, against which the student is compared)
Interviews
Demonstrated interest (including virtual events, visits, early decision)

What is the difference between "course rigor" and "Grit?"

Course rigor is how challenging the student's overall schedule is and the school's reputation for standards in the course. The regional reps know these things about the schools in their areas.

Grit is about the student's courage, resolve, and strength of character. It will be evident in recommendations, essays, the whole picture of what the kid is taking on in and out of school,

As if LoRs or essays can "reveal strength of character." LOL

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Course rigor
Grades
Preparation for potential major/career
AP scores
SAT/ACT scores (if they're strong and school isn't test-blind)
Activities (depth and breadth)
Leadership
Grit
Teacher recommendations
Counselor recommendations (for understanding of the school community, against which the student is compared)
Interviews
Demonstrated interest (including virtual events, visits, early decision)

What is the difference between "course rigor" and "Grit?"

Course rigor is how challenging the student's overall schedule is and the school's reputation for standards in the course. The regional reps know these things about the schools in their areas.

Grit is about the student's courage, resolve, and strength of character. It will be evident in recommendations, essays, the whole picture of what the kid is taking on in and out of school,

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

Not true in the UC system. UC Berkeley is 36% Asian, 22% White.

And if Berkeley was "race blind" in their admissions, do you think it would be more than 36% Asian? A qualified student should not be denied admission because of their race, in favor of a less qualified student of a different ("under represented" race.)

Why do you assume they’re losing to “less qualified” students? Perfect stat kids are a dime a dozen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

Not true in the UC system. UC Berkeley is 36% Asian, 22% White.

And if Berkeley was "race blind" in their admissions, do you think it would be more than 36% Asian? A qualified student should not be denied admission because of their race, in favor of a less qualified student of a different ("under represented" race.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

Not true in the UC system. UC Berkeley is 36% Asian, 22% White.

Yes but that was before the uc system went test blind.

Not sure what you mean. The UC system has only been blind for one admissions cycle, not long enough for the numbers to jump,that drastically.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

Not true in the UC system. UC Berkeley is 36% Asian, 22% White.

Yes but that was before the uc system went test blind.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

Not true in the UC system. UC Berkeley is 36% Asian, 22% White.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are first generation or URM.

White supremacy is an ugly thing.

If you haven't been paying attention the last 30+ years, it's not about white people. The Asians are the ones getting shafted.

To the extent this is true, they’re getting shafted by white people, not the underrepresented groups so often cited here; privilege and connections disproportionately held by white people (e.g. legacy preference, philanthropy, private school attendance) are a huge factor in admissions. All you have to do is look at the numbers—the percentages of Black, Hispanic, and Native American students at selective schools rarely exceed the single digits, well below their representation in the US population. If you think the reason Asian students aren’t getting into selective colleges is because a school increased its Black student population from 5% to 6% over a number of years, you’re pretty lost in the sauce.

And the white people working to maintain that privilege are THRILLED you bought into it. They want nothing more than to pit people of color against each other in some sort of zero sum game.

Anonymous wrote:Why do we care about a six year old article in Edweek? All one has to do is compare percentage of class graduating with 4.0 at local publics v. Local privates
When many of the pubkic schools have 20 percent or more of kids with 4.0, that’s grade inflation. You won’t find that at top local private schools. Not sure why there is even a dispute about this.

I think there is a lot of nuance here: First, these groups are not monolithic, especially privates as they are governed independently. Second, thinking of my kid's private, I have no doubt there is grade inflation compared to a few generations ago. There is a lot of written history that makes me think kids used to earn Cs and still get into Ivy league schools. But at the same time, since there are no weighted grades the inflation is pretty slow. No one has a perfect GPA or above a perfect GPA.

So, while kids across the board are getting higher averages than previous generations of students (say average used to be C and now a B), they also have lower averages than peers at schools where there are weighted grades a bunch of kids above a 4.0 A+ average.

Anonymous wrote:Grade inflation really isn't as big deal because colleges get a school profile. Even if grades are inflated, an AO gets enough data to know what the GPA for a top 10% student is, they know the top overall GPA, they get data on what a rigorous course load is, the get data on AP and honors courses are offered, etc. They know a lot more than you think. It does not matter if half a class is over a 4.0.

Yep, our public school ranks top 10% of the class.