Anonymous
12/18/2022 00:50
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry but this is really poor journalism. Let’s be clear— the books were met with overwhelming support….from the LGBTQ+ community. Not the entire MCPS community despite the “robust” evaluation. This is a very sensitive topic for many. The article states those who disagree with this decision are living in fear, which just smacks of bias and ostracism (and yes, irony). People have a lot of different feelings about how this should be presented to children and that should have been respected if we are really going to be inclusive.
Completely agree.
+1. No, sorry. We aren’t going to be “include” of your bigotry.
Anonymous
12/18/2022 00:49
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really happy to see this. Thanks for posting, OP.
Why are you happy to see this in schools?
These books are available at public libraries and parents are welcome to buy them if they so choose.
Why do you see the need to have these books available in elementary schools?
I'm confused. So elementary schools should only have books that public libraries don't have and parents can't buy?
Nothing to be confused about this poster is an idiot. Book banning ignorant. Her kids will never amount to anything.
No, they may. Kids of parents like these often swing to the polar opposite of their parents when they get to college.
Anonymous
12/18/2022 00:48
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really happy to see this. Thanks for posting, OP.
Why are you happy to see this in schools?
These books are available at public libraries and parents are welcome to buy them if they so choose.
Why do you see the need to have these books available in elementary schools?
To save kids from repressive, reactionary parents like you.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 22:49
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I support it as a 2 mom family. Be nice for my kid and my kids friends to see our type of family on a book in the classroom. It’s a shame it’s only one book per grade and the teachers aren’t “ required” to read it though. Originally it was supposed to be 2 books per grade and the teachers weee getting training on incorporating them into classroom learning. So while it’s a step in the right direction. It’s a very small step.
Now admin can blame teachers if kids aren't introduced to LGBTQ issues in ES.
Keep that crap at home. Hetro, Homo, Bi whatever a second grader does not to read a book Suzie has two moms and her two moms have vibrators
Agreed. No more books about any families of any sort. Second graders do not have to read books in which people have parents. Keep that stuff at home.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 22:25
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I support it as a 2 mom family. Be nice for my kid and my kids friends to see our type of family on a book in the classroom. It’s a shame it’s only one book per grade and the teachers aren’t “ required” to read it though. Originally it was supposed to be 2 books per grade and the teachers weee getting training on incorporating them into classroom learning. So while it’s a step in the right direction. It’s a very small step.
Now admin can blame teachers if kids aren't introduced to LGBTQ issues in ES.
Keep that crap at home. Hetro, Homo, Bi whatever a second grader does not to read a book Suzie has two moms and her two moms have vibrators
Put the wine down.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 20:19
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I support it as a 2 mom family. Be nice for my kid and my kids friends to see our type of family on a book in the classroom. It’s a shame it’s only one book per grade and the teachers aren’t “ required” to read it though. Originally it was supposed to be 2 books per grade and the teachers weee getting training on incorporating them into classroom learning. So while it’s a step in the right direction. It’s a very small step.
Now admin can blame teachers if kids aren't introduced to LGBTQ issues in ES.
Keep that crap at home. Hetro, Homo, Bi whatever a second grader does not to read a book Suzie has two moms and her two moms have vibrators
Anonymous
12/17/2022 20:06
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:I support it as a 2 mom family. Be nice for my kid and my kids friends to see our type of family on a book in the classroom. It’s a shame it’s only one book per grade and the teachers aren’t “ required” to read it though. Originally it was supposed to be 2 books per grade and the teachers weee getting training on incorporating them into classroom learning. So while it’s a step in the right direction. It’s a very small step.
Now admin can blame teachers if kids aren't introduced to LGBTQ issues in ES.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:28
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
the percentages aren’t actually relevant. What’s relevant is that kids can see families like theirs in their school. Doesn’t matter if it’s only one kid in the entire grade. It matters to that one kid.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone here want to read "the classics" when they were in school? Curriculum and media center development has moved light years beyond when we were in school. Were the classics even ever relevant???
What does this mean? Captain Underpants?
Yes, I wanted to read A Little Princess, Heidi, Little House on the Prairie, etc.
Tell us what you mean about curriculum moving light years beyond...
Those books are still available! It's not like "the classics" have been purged from MCPS media centers. More books have been added. That's good! I want kids with two dads to feel just as represented in literature as kids who live on the side of a mountain in Switzerland with their grumpy grandfather.
You aren't responding to the same thing that I was responding to. But, so we can discuss... there were 114,000 same sex couples raising kids in the U.S. in 2016 (latest I saw in my quick look-up) out of 34.2 million families with children in that year. So, "just as represented" should be... not much. Equals 0.00351851851
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/employment-in-families-with-children-in-2016.htm
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/same-sex-parents-us/
(And, I really doubt that very many MCPS classrooms have the books cited above.)
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:24
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
they’re not religious book. Why would they? It’s a totally different genre.Anonymous wrote:Do those “inclusive books” include the Bible? Koran?
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:22
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone here want to read "the classics" when they were in school? Curriculum and media center development has moved light years beyond when we were in school. Were the classics even ever relevant???
What does this mean? Captain Underpants?
Yes, I wanted to read A Little Princess, Heidi, Little House on the Prairie, etc.
Tell us what you mean about curriculum moving light years beyond...
Those books are still available! It's not like "the classics" have been purged from MCPS media centers. More books have been added. That's good! I want kids with two dads to feel just as represented in literature as kids who live on the side of a mountain in Switzerland with their grumpy grandfather.
You aren't responding to the same thing that I was responding to. But, so we can discuss... there were 114,000 same sex couples raising kids in the U.S. in 2016 (latest I saw in my quick look-up) out of 34.2 million families with children in that year. So, "just as represented" should be... not much. Equals 0.00351851851
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/employment-in-families-with-children-in-2016.htm
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/same-sex-parents-us/
(And, I really doubt that very many MCPS classrooms have the books cited above.)
First of all, I think the relevant statistic isn't number of same sex couples full stop, it should be number of same sex couples of childbearing age. But the comparison was between kids growing up in households with same sex parents, and kids growing up on the side of a mountain in Switzerland. In the United States, the former is definitely going to be bigger than the latter both both can be represented in children's literature.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:30
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
There is going to be a huge push to ban books at MCPS in the next two years.
Bethany Mandel the creep is leading the charge. Her kids are homeschooled.
I personally will be at every meeting she shows up to. My kids are grown I will not let the religious idiots ruin MCPS>.
Bethany Mandel the creep is leading the charge. Her kids are homeschooled.
I personally will be at every meeting she shows up to. My kids are grown I will not let the religious idiots ruin MCPS>.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:27
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
^^^I meant unabridged. I read the unabridged Heidi. The unabridged Heidi is a LOT of Heidi.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:26
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone here want to read "the classics" when they were in school? Curriculum and media center development has moved light years beyond when we were in school. Were the classics even ever relevant???
What does this mean? Captain Underpants?
Yes, I wanted to read A Little Princess, Heidi, Little House on the Prairie, etc.
Tell us what you mean about curriculum moving light years beyond...
Those books are still available! It's not like "the classics" have been purged from MCPS media centers. More books have been added. That's good! I want kids with two dads to feel just as represented in literature as kids who live on the side of a mountain in Switzerland with their grumpy grandfather.
You aren't responding to the same thing that I was responding to. But, so we can discuss... there were 114,000 same sex couples raising kids in the U.S. in 2016 (latest I saw in my quick look-up) out of 34.2 million families with children in that year. So, "just as represented" should be... not much. Equals 0.00351851851
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/employment-in-families-with-children-in-2016.htm
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/same-sex-parents-us/
(And, I really doubt that very many MCPS classrooms have the books cited above.)
So, as a US-born, non-Christian, Gen X child of immigrants, I read A Little Princess, Heidi (abridged), Little House on the Prairie, and anything in the "etc." category you can name. I even read Little Lord Fauntleroy. I think there's space on the library bookshelves for books that were published within the last 80 years and have main characters who aren't white and Christian. I even think this would be good for children who are white and Christian.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:20
Subject: Re:Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
And we wouldn't even be able to calculate the number of kids "who have Dads who are drag queens." The number would be infinitesimal.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:18
Subject: Inclusive Books Available for Elementary Classrooms
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did anyone here want to read "the classics" when they were in school? Curriculum and media center development has moved light years beyond when we were in school. Were the classics even ever relevant???
What does this mean? Captain Underpants?
Yes, I wanted to read A Little Princess, Heidi, Little House on the Prairie, etc.
Tell us what you mean about curriculum moving light years beyond...
Those books are still available! It's not like "the classics" have been purged from MCPS media centers. More books have been added. That's good! I want kids with two dads to feel just as represented in literature as kids who live on the side of a mountain in Switzerland with their grumpy grandfather.
You aren't responding to the same thing that I was responding to. But, so we can discuss... there were 114,000 same sex couples raising kids in the U.S. in 2016 (latest I saw in my quick look-up) out of 34.2 million families with children in that year. So, "just as represented" should be... not much. Equals 0.00351851851
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/employment-in-families-with-children-in-2016.htm
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/same-sex-parents-us/
(And, I really doubt that very many MCPS classrooms have the books cited above.)