Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:47
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.
Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.
Statistics is your friend.
There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.
You, my lady, are the one projecting.
Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.
DCUM never fails to disappoint.
What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.
About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.
Just playing the odds.
Cite for that 70% figure? Oh wait, you pulled it out of your butt.
You’re playing a dangerous game with strangers’ lives.
https://imprintnews.org/child-trauma-2/when-trauma-slips-into-addiction/32462
https://www.gatewayfoundation.org/addiction-blog/trauma-and-addiction/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3051362/
https://www.silvermistrecovery.com/2018/09/2019-guide-the-link-between-childhood-trauma-and/
https://www.nctsn.org/sites/default/files/resources/making_the_connection_trauma_substance_abuse.pdf
https://hms.harvard.edu/news-events/publications-archive/brain/addiction-brain
https://www.scranton.edu/faculty/morgan/PDF/Thoughts%20on%20the%20Interaction%20of%20Trauma,%20Addiction,%20and%20Spirituality.pdf
Most of these are ABOUT trauma and asserting a link of unspecified magnitude, and at least two have the link going in the wrong direction you're trying to prove (the share of people with trauma who became addicted, not the share of addicts who had trauma). Nobody is denying there's a link between trauma and addiction. What's dangerous is assuming that every addict, including people you've never met like OP's sister, have trauma like rape (your speculation) in their past. That Mayo link shows a lot of other potential reasons, like depression and other mental illness, friends, and even just trying a highly addictive drug (OP's sister is on cocaine, so that's a smoking gun right there).
What's at stake is OP's sister getting the right kind of treatment right out of the gate. She needs an ADDICTION therapist, who can recommend a trauma or other specialist as needed.
Many show the % of addicts with trauma. The 1st link says 75%, the 2nd says 65%. Some shoe women have higher rate of addiction correlated with trauma.
You can do your own research it’s everywhere.
She needs to treat the trauma 1st then the addiction, otherwise she will get caught in the rehab revolving door.
Addiction therapy has a low rate of success. DBT and EMDR has a higher rate of success.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:44
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I have not seen a drug addict actually better their life. Either they have died or they have wrecked the lives of others. Hope that your family has a better outcome.
I have. I've seen coke addict work the AA program and go on to live an amazing life. That child needs rehab followed by AA meetings every day. Relapse is part of recovery. Father can eventually set boundaries if child refuses rehab, or does rehab but just returns to her old life. Boundaries like - if you do drugs or sleep during the daytime and don't maintain a job, you're out!
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:36
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
How is she paying for the coke? Many families don't realize the difference between enabling and supporting. Ask me how I know...it's a very tough road that doesn't get easier please don't lose yourself "helping" like I did for decades. Consider alanon meetings. Good luck I wish you and your family the best.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:31
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
Who blamed a parent? The only person with ill thoughts are parents in this side thread is you. OP didn't mention their mother, you weren't curious? Did she pass away when sister was young, is it possible she has been struggling with grief?
You have a wild imagination. This is up there with you betting that OP's sister was raped. Seriously, you need to get off the interwebs and deal with your own issues instead of playing around guessing about everybody else's issues.
Things I never said or wrote in this thread. But you go on 'head since based on the other posts you seem intent on "winning" this conversation.
16:07: "She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point."
Again, for the cheap seats, things *I* never said or wrote in this thread. I am starting to figure out what your problem is: reading comprehension.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:30
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
OP whatever you decide to do I hope your sister gets better. She's so young.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:30
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
Who blamed a parent? The only person with ill thoughts are parents in this side thread is you. OP didn't mention their mother, you weren't curious? Did she pass away when sister was young, is it possible she has been struggling with grief?
You have a wild imagination. This is up there with you betting that OP's sister was raped. Seriously, you need to get off the interwebs and deal with your own issues instead of playing around guessing about everybody else's issues.
Things I never said or wrote in this thread. But you go on 'head since based on the other posts you seem intent on "winning" this conversation.
16:07: "She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point."
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:27
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.
Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.
Statistics is your friend.
There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.
You, my lady, are the one projecting.
Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.
DCUM never fails to disappoint.
What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.
About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.
Just playing the odds.
Cite for that 70% figure? Oh wait, you pulled it out of your butt.
You’re playing a dangerous game with strangers’ lives.
https://imprintnews.org/child-trauma-2/when-trauma-slips-into-addiction/32462
https://www.gatewayfoundation.org/addiction-blog/trauma-and-addiction/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3051362/
https://www.silvermistrecovery.com/2018/09/2019-guide-the-link-between-childhood-trauma-and/
https://www.nctsn.org/sites/default/files/resources/making_the_connection_trauma_substance_abuse.pdf
https://hms.harvard.edu/news-events/publications-archive/brain/addiction-brain
https://www.scranton.edu/faculty/morgan/PDF/Thoughts%20on%20the%20Interaction%20of%20Trauma,%20Addiction,%20and%20Spirituality.pdf
Most of these are ABOUT trauma and asserting a link of unspecified magnitude, and at least two have the link going in the wrong direction you're trying to prove (the share of people with trauma who became addicted, not the share of addicts who had trauma). Nobody is denying there's a link between trauma and addiction. What's dangerous is assuming that every addict, including people you've never met like OP's sister, have trauma like rape (your speculation) in their past. That Mayo link shows a lot of other potential reasons, like depression and other mental illness, friends, and even just trying a highly addictive drug (OP's sister is on cocaine, so that's a smoking gun right there).
What's at stake is OP's sister getting the right kind of treatment right out of the gate. She needs an ADDICTION therapist, who can recommend a trauma or other specialist as needed.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:25
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
Who blamed a parent? The only person with ill thoughts are parents in this side thread is you. OP didn't mention their mother, you weren't curious? Did she pass away when sister was young, is it possible she has been struggling with grief?
You have a wild imagination. This is up there with you betting that OP's sister was raped. Seriously, you need to get off the interwebs and deal with your own issues instead of playing around guessing about everybody else's issues.
Things I never said or wrote in this thread. But you go on 'head since based on the other posts you seem intent on "winning" this conversation.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:19
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
Who blamed a parent? The only person with ill thoughts are parents in this side thread is you. OP didn't mention their mother, you weren't curious? Did she pass away when sister was young, is it possible she has been struggling with grief?
You have a wild imagination. This is up there with you betting that OP's sister was raped. Seriously, you need to get off the interwebs and deal with your own issues instead of playing around guessing about everybody else's issues.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:19
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
This is what I want to know. Guessing that OP's parents are either divorced or her mother died; either way, this caused some real trauma to the sister.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:18
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.
Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.
Statistics is your friend.
There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.
You, my lady, are the one projecting.
Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.
DCUM never fails to disappoint.
What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.
About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.
Just playing the odds.
Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.
But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?
Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.
Great but find one that specializes in trauma.
And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.
I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.
You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.
Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.
So if a trauma specialist rules out trauma, then OP's sister has wasted several months with an inappropriate therapist. Do you think that would be a good outcome?
OP's sister needs an ADDICTION therapist. Who will know how to rule trauma in or out, or any other cause, and make the appropriate referrals. This is basic stuff.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 18:17
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
Who blamed a parent? The only person with ill thoughts are parents in this side thread is you. OP didn't mention their mother, you weren't curious? Did she pass away when sister was young, is it possible she has been struggling with grief?
Anonymous
12/14/2022 17:46
Subject: Re:Sister on and off drugs at college
Had a family member like this. Get her into rehab because she'll be in a controled environment. Work with her therapist on finding a good place for it. She'll make friends, and get some will in life. Next step then would be a job and cleaning up her life.
It can be done -- my family member did and never looked back -- but it's also easy to relapse especially if surrounded by the wrong kind of people.
The other option is finding religion.. that works for some.
It can be done -- my family member did and never looked back -- but it's also easy to relapse especially if surrounded by the wrong kind of people.
The other option is finding religion.. that works for some.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 17:45
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.
Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.
Statistics is your friend.
There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.
You, my lady, are the one projecting.
Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.
DCUM never fails to disappoint.
What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.
About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.
Just playing the odds.
Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.
But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?
Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.
Great but find one that specializes in trauma.
And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.
I’m sure a trauma specialist can rule out trauma.
You suck because you are so bent out of shake about the realization that most addicts had trauma in their past.
Remember tgat next time you think fat people just need to eat less.
Anonymous
12/14/2022 17:34
Subject: Sister on and off drugs at college
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where is your mother? Also, what happened to your sister, what pain is she trying to numb with the drugs?
“Blame the parents for everything” pp has entered the room. Because it’s never normal teenage social anxiety leading to experimentation leading to much more.
She’s not blaming the parents but she most likely was raped at some point.
Get help for projecting horrible things onto anonymous people on the interwebs.
Statistics is your friend.
There is a huge chance she has trauma. Addiction is a disease in response to something underlying, perhaps she is bipolar or schizophrenic but my $ is on trauma.
You, my lady, are the one projecting.
Oh good. Pp has diagnosed a complete stranger and recommended trauma therapy. Ruling out so many other causes, like untreated depression and anxiety or bad choice of friends.
DCUM never fails to disappoint.
What do you think is causing anxiety and depression.
About 70% of addicted adults have trauma in their past.
Just playing the odds.
Anxiety and depression are very often genetic. They run in families, and certainly in DH’s. If you don’t even know this much, you have no business giving advice over the internet.
But you can diagnose her with anxiety and depression?
Of course not. I’m not diagnosing her with anything. I want a professional to do that.
Great but find one that specializes in trauma.
And what if the cause is the other 30% even you grudgingly admit is out there? Or one of the many other reasons the Mayo Clinic cites? OP’s sister is SOL because your “hunch” is wrong and her genetic depression/anxiety goes untreated? You suck. You really suck.