Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 12:19     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD withdrew most of her EA apps but she was very curious about one particular very long shot school and could not find an easy way to withdraw her app so she let it ride. She did not get in, nor did she expect to have a snowballs chance in hell so didn't feel like it was a big deal. She did withdraw every other app (there were about 5-6 which were outstanding when she got her ED)

I should add, she didn't plan to accept the other school if she got in, just wanted to know if she would get in.


You do realize had she gotten in, she was taking a spot from another student. What a horrible lesson to allow your child not to follow the terms of her ED acceptance.


No she wasn’t taking a sport from anyone because she wasn’t going to enroll. Colleges do not a 100% yield and therefore they accept way more than they need to fill the class. You really are clueless aren’t you? And even if they did, they would go to the waitlist if they didn’t get the yield they wanted. There is no kid sitting home crying in their cheerios as a result of my kid not pulling her app.


Colleges do limit the number of kids that they take per high school though
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 12:18     Subject: Re:Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

My dd applied ED to a school a few years ago. She also applied EA to several schools. She had received acceptances to some of the EA schools before she got the ED acceptance and she immediately declined those. She had a few more in process and she emailed to withdraw her applications (or did whatever she needed to do on Naviance). There was one that she was unable to withdraw and she was worried about it. She did email the admissions office at the school. I’m not sure how she knew it wasn’t withdrawn - maybe something on Naviance. Her high school counselor told her not to worry. It was a large school and she declined admission right away.

ED is a game but if you want to play, you have to follow the rules. In retrospect, my dd should not have played bc she ended up transferring and may have ended up at a different school if she had had more time to evaluate options. But she knew the risk. It worked out well for her in the end but if you cannot commit 100%, you should not apply ED.

Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 12:13     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was talking to two neighbors over the weekend and both had kids that got into competitive schools ED. We are all alumni at UVA and both mentioned their kids did get into UVA and they were kind of sad they did ED somewhere else.

The only way this could possibly happen is if they never withdrew the other applications as required. Is that common? Do kids not withdraw just so they can see where else they might have been accepted?


Does the University of Virginia report ED & EA decisions at the same time ? If so, the parents discussion may have confused the concepts & requirements.


No. UVA releases ED by December 15th. EA usually comes out early February.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 12:04     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD withdrew most of her EA apps but she was very curious about one particular very long shot school and could not find an easy way to withdraw her app so she let it ride. She did not get in, nor did she expect to have a snowballs chance in hell so didn't feel like it was a big deal. She did withdraw every other app (there were about 5-6 which were outstanding when she got her ED)

I should add, she didn't plan to accept the other school if she got in, just wanted to know if she would get in.


You do realize had she gotten in, she was taking a spot from another student. What a horrible lesson to allow your child not to follow the terms of her ED acceptance.


No she wasn’t taking a sport from anyone because she wasn’t going to enroll. Colleges do not a 100% yield and therefore they accept way more than they need to fill the class. You really are clueless aren’t you? And even if they did, they would go to the waitlist if they didn’t get the yield they wanted. There is no kid sitting home crying in their cheerios as a result of my kid not pulling her app.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:56     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A girl in my DD's class last year didn't and we informed the school. BTW, I posted about this last year asking if we should inform the school. About half the posters said MYOB and it was a pretty controversial discussion. Not sure why but that's DCUM for you.


Curious to know what happened after you informed the school? How did school respond to you? To the student involved? Was ED rescinded? Student held accountable?


Why on earth did you report her? That is so terrible.


+1

DMV parents are ruthless.


We reported her to the college counselor at her school because it's unethical and makes the school look really bad.


Is this supposed to make your getting involved ok or to justify it?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:22     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:I was talking to two neighbors over the weekend and both had kids that got into competitive schools ED. We are all alumni at UVA and both mentioned their kids did get into UVA and they were kind of sad they did ED somewhere else.

The only way this could possibly happen is if they never withdrew the other applications as required. Is that common? Do kids not withdraw just so they can see where else they might have been accepted?


Does the University of Virginia report ED & EA decisions at the same time ? If so, the parents discussion may have confused the concepts & requirements.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:22     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:The honest ones who don't want to screw other kids for sport do, yes, and they do it immediately.


This is the understanding/expectation. I would hope that guidance counselors oversee it?

If not, parents should teach (or have taught) their kids to be honorable.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:19     Subject: Re:Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between keeping your applications at other schools but ultimately enrolling in ED school vs. keeping applications, rejecting ED, and enrolling in a subsequent admitting school. Neither is completely in-line with ED standards, but the first option fulfills curiosity and ultimately fulfills the ED promise. Also, I seem to recall that ED admission requires student confirmation and a deposit well before RD results.


No deposit due before EA results. If a student really needs to compare aid packages, more power to them. It's the natural results of schools making ED a much easier path to admission.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:16     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD withdrew most of her EA apps but she was very curious about one particular very long shot school and could not find an easy way to withdraw her app so she let it ride. She did not get in, nor did she expect to have a snowballs chance in hell so didn't feel like it was a big deal. She did withdraw every other app (there were about 5-6 which were outstanding when she got her ED)

I should add, she didn't plan to accept the other school if she got in, just wanted to know if she would get in.


You do realize had she gotten in, she was taking a spot from another student. What a horrible lesson to allow your child not to follow the terms of her ED acceptance.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:14     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Early decision is not legally binding. Apply early and often.


Do you understand how ED works?



Posters are mixing up ED and EA, clearly with little idea about the distinctions between the two.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:14     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A girl in my DD's class last year didn't and we informed the school. BTW, I posted about this last year asking if we should inform the school. About half the posters said MYOB and it was a pretty controversial discussion. Not sure why but that's DCUM for you.


Curious to know what happened after you informed the school? How did school respond to you? To the student involved? Was ED rescinded? Student held accountable?


Why on earth did you report her? That is so terrible.


Dp, but I don’t see what is terrible about it, the student had no ethics and was potential taking spots at other school’s from her classmates or causing harm to future applicant classes at her school of ED school found out.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:11     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

I thought the elite schools all knew about the others' applicants anyway. I doubt you could get away with it at a top tier school.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 11:05     Subject: Re:Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

There is a difference between keeping your applications at other schools but ultimately enrolling in ED school vs. keeping applications, rejecting ED, and enrolling in a subsequent admitting school. Neither is completely in-line with ED standards, but the first option fulfills curiosity and ultimately fulfills the ED promise. Also, I seem to recall that ED admission requires student confirmation and a deposit well before RD results.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 10:56     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A girl in my DD's class last year didn't and we informed the school. BTW, I posted about this last year asking if we should inform the school. About half the posters said MYOB and it was a pretty controversial discussion. Not sure why but that's DCUM for you.


Curious to know what happened after you informed the school? How did school respond to you? To the student involved? Was ED rescinded? Student held accountable?


Why on earth did you report her? That is so terrible.


+1

DMV parents are ruthless.


We reported her to the college counselor at her school because it's unethical and makes the school look really bad.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2022 10:55     Subject: Do kids really withdraw all other applications when they get in ED?

Anonymous wrote:My kid did withdraw other apps when he got in ED. But two things I noticed: 1) there was no easy way to withdraw other apps. I don’t know why more schools don’t have a way in the portal. 2) the ED school said nothing to remind DS to do so. The acceptance letter did not say anything about the ED “rules.”


I have been told & have read of instances where schools did not comply with the student's application withdrawal request and the student later received a rejection. All were small schools which probably did this to appear more selective.