Anonymous wrote:OP, Tower Research is super random to pick out. Why not go with the big guns: RenTech, HRT, Jane Street, Citadel, Two Sig, etc.

The high paying trading firm that only hires the most exceptional people
https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2021/11/jane-street-jobs


"Mostly, though, Jane Street likes to hire students. But not just any students. It only hires the very, very, very best. In the past two years, Jane Street has hired over 10 computer science, maths or physics graduates into London, mostly from Cambridge University but occasionally from Oxford, Bristol or Imperial College. They all have first class degrees, but they also have something more...

The typical Jane Street graduate hire is someone with a first class degree who finished close to the top in their year at a top class university. They will have won prizes. They will have been scholars. One recent recruit graduated top in a mathematics paper out of 272 people at Cambridge University. Another was the second best in his Cambridge cohort."

Anonymous wrote:OP, Tower Research is super random to pick out. Why not go with the big guns: RenTech, HRT, Jane Street, Citadel, Two Sig, etc.

RenTech is unique in that they mostly hire PhDs, and almost never undergrads. Maybe some geniuses from MIT get a call out of undergrad but that’s it. The rest are pretty standard with hiring: Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech, and top CS/Math programs like Berkeley, CMU, UIUC, UT, NYU, UMich, Georgia Tech, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:A little surprised that UT isn't on this list. A lot of Tower's competitors (Citadel Securities, Hudson River) target UT CS and math majors, with the logic being that there is bound to be a ton of quantitative talent at the top of the second most populous state's flagship (with a solid T10 CS program).

+1. Can personally confirm that Jane Street and Two Sigma do as well, knowing people in the industry.

+2 I know two physics majors at UT (my nephew and one of his roommates) who had fantastic summer internships at Jane Street and early senior year had post grad job offers at Jane Street and Citadel.

OP, Tower Research is super random to pick out. Why not go with the big guns: RenTech, HRT, Jane Street, Citadel, Two Sig, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What is AWS?

And what is "lower ivy"? Is this something new? Lower ivies - Uchicago, MIT, Caltech, and Stanford?

Umm, none of those schools are Ivies. The term "lower Ivies" refer to non-HYP Ivies. Your own definition of which are "middle" vs. "lower" will depend on which non-HYP you attended lol.

No ivy grad talks about lower, middle, or higher ivies. This says more about how ridiculous and insular PP is.

Anonymous wrote:A little surprised that UT isn't on this list. A lot of Tower's competitors (Citadel Securities, Hudson River) target UT CS and math majors, with the logic being that there is bound to be a ton of quantitative talent at the top of the second most populous state's flagship (with a solid T10 CS program).

+1. Can personally confirm that Jane Street and Two Sigma do as well, knowing people in the industry.

A little surprised that UT isn't on this list. A lot of Tower's competitors (Citadel Securities, Hudson River) target UT CS and math majors, with the logic being that there is bound to be a ton of quantitative talent at the top of the second most populous state's flagship (with a solid T10 CS program).

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What is AWS?

And what is "lower ivy"? Is this something new? Lower ivies - Uchicago, MIT, Caltech, and Stanford?

Umm, none of those schools are Ivies. The term "lower Ivies" refer to non-HYP Ivies. Your own definition of which are "middle" vs. "lower" will depend on which non-HYP you attended lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What NESACS and AWS stand for?

The NESCAC is a D3 sports conference -- New England Small College Athletic Conference. Its schools: Williams, Amherst, Tufts, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Wesleyan, Trinity, and Connecticut College. AWS stands for Amherst/Williams/Swarthmore.

There's no such thing as "lower" ivies. I doubt UPenn thinks it's "lower' than others.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What is AWS?

And what is "lower ivy"? Is this something new? Lower ivies - Uchicago, MIT, Caltech, and Stanford?

Umm, none of those schools are Ivies. The term "lower Ivies" refer to non-HYP Ivies. Your own definition of which are "middle" vs. "lower" will depend on which non-HYP you attended lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What NESACS and AWS stand for?

The NESCAC is a D3 sports conference -- New England Small College Athletic Conference. Its schools: Williams, Amherst, Tufts, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Wesleyan, Trinity, and Connecticut College. AWS stands for Amherst/Williams/Swarthmore.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What NESACS and AWS stand for?

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

I would be absolutely shocked if anyone who graduated from the schools listed in this thread wants to work at SIG in Philadelphia (and to a lesser extent, Citadel in Chicago).

You are crazy - SIG is a top shop

They have zero problems recruiting the best of the best

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

I would be absolutely shocked if anyone who graduated from the schools listed in this thread wants to work at SIG in Philadelphia (and to a lesser extent, Citadel in Chicago).

Yeah Philly is a shithole and Citadel has a toxic culture and really bad PR

SIG is in an exburb 30+ minutes away from Philly. It’s in a gorgeous wealthy town, albeit more family-oriented.

Hey, my son got offers for the same salary in more expensive cities - he was happy to settle on Philly. Plus there are a lot of Wharton bros there.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not representative of WS as a whole. Notably missing Dartmouth, Northwestern, Penn/Wharton.

It's fintech. All of the NESACS are missing too because it's a lot harder to teach a history major to be a quant than it is to teach a history major to be an investment banker

It’s actually better to go to AWS than lower Ivy if you want to work at Jane street and comparable firms becsuse AWS alums can get interviews by just emailing alums at those firms

My sister got a Jane street and SIG interview from AWS from cold emailing an alum at each shop

Lower ivies are too large to really leverage alums as effectively on a personal level.

What is AWS?

And what is "lower ivy"? Is this something new? Lower ivies - Uchicago, MIT, Caltech, and Stanford?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was looking for a business program.

I've heard a lot about IB target or consulting target, but never heard of trading target lol

Trading is more meritocratic. Being a super-smart math wiz from MIT or Duke will only help a little compared to being the same caliber from UMD or UVA

What if you’re a math wiz from JMU or GMU?

Anonymous wrote:My kid was looking for a business program.

I've heard a lot about IB target or consulting target, but never heard of trading target lol

Trading is more meritocratic. Being a super-smart math wiz from MIT or Duke will only help a little compared to being the same caliber from UMD or UVA