Anonymous wrote:Also, co-op programs usually focus on a specific practice area such as family law, criminal law, tax law, etc.

Law firm summer associates get assignments from various practice areas and typically do not meet with clients.

Most law schools already have that but they are usually called clinics. Like free student assistance on tax returns or divorce

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

Well paying meaning soul sucking "big law?" Local DAs and PDs usually come from local schools.

This! Big law is soul sucking. I would never let my kids go to law school.

Counterpoint. I had zero debt out of law school. Chose BigLaw and have found the challenge of it to be extraordinarily satisfying. The seven figure earnings don't suck either.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

Well paying meaning soul sucking "big law?" Local DAs and PDs usually come from local schools.

This! Big law is soul sucking. I would never let my kids go to law school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

Well paying meaning soul sucking "big law?" Local DAs and PDs usually come from local schools.

If you’re looking to make $70k/year why go to law school at all?

Are you serious? Some people are perfectly content making $70,000 doing what they enjoy. Not everyone has the single career goal of a $500,000 salary.

Absolutely. A legal aid lawyer could take a case all the way to SCOTUS and help secure protections.for an entire class of underserved people. Put that on your gravestone instead of I owned a huge money sucking vacation home.

ok if you have money to burn

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

Well paying meaning soul sucking "big law?" Local DAs and PDs usually come from local schools.

If you’re looking to make $70k/year why go to law school at all?

Are you serious? Some people are perfectly content making $70,000 doing what they enjoy. Not everyone has the single career goal of a $500,000 salary.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

Well paying meaning soul sucking "big law?" Local DAs and PDs usually come from local schools.

If you’re looking to make $70k/year why go to law school at all?

Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget practicing law generally requires a different skill set than law school teaches you as well.

"Practicing law" can mean so many different things. Law school tries to teach some select areas of the law, issue spotting, research, analysis, legal writing. This translates to the "practice of law" if you're a brief writer.

It doesn't teach you in depth how to acquire clients, deal with clients, run the business of a private law firm, market the firm, litigate, settle, go to trial, etc. You know those "Big Firms" that law students think they want to be a part of? They started as small firms with a handful of people, clients, and connections. Law school doesn't teach you how those small firms became huge firms and how to make that happen from a business standpoint.

I don't know that any of this would have to do with a "law school that changes lives."

Don’t forget practicing law generally requires a different skill set than law school teaches you as well.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

Well paying meaning soul sucking "big law?" Local DAs and PDs usually come from local schools.

Anonymous wrote:OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Caveat, it's also about getting a job. The general rule of thumb is that well-paying jobs for new attorneys recruit from T14 and are much more difficult to get coming from lower ranked schools, say outside the top 20.

OP, it's all about passing The Bar. Otherwise, it's not worth going to law school. Proving you have what it takes to succeed, in class, means you're on track to likely pass the bar. There is no hand holding, no gentler way.

Anonymous wrote:What about the Kim Kardashian route? Some states allow an apprenticeship model for law.

You will never get a job doing this. Also, there is no support. I would think it would be much harder for someone with an LD to do it that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there law schools that accommodate different types of learners and take a Drexel or Norteastern approach to academics with extensive externship experiences,

Different types of learners need to figure out how to accommodate law school, not the other way around. I learned more about how to train myself to succeed despite my ADHD in law school than in all the years before when I was actually getting professional help in doing so. Employers also aren't focused on accommodating learner type. You/your kid will be in the real world, may as well start dealing with it now.

Also, if you don't get into a top law school and you need to take on debt, find another career -- ROI will likely be negative.

This is, in my opinion, spot on outstanding advice !

Anonymous wrote:Are there law schools that accommodate different types of learners and take a Drexel or Norteastern approach to academics with extensive externship experiences,

Different types of learners need to figure out how to accommodate law school, not the other way around. I learned more about how to train myself to succeed despite my ADHD in law school than in all the years before when I was actually getting professional help in doing so. Employers also aren't focused on accommodating learner type. You/your kid will be in the real world, may as well start dealing with it now.

Also, if you don't get into a top law school and you need to take on debt, find another career -- ROI will likely be negative.