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Anonymous wrote:DS has a pretty good social life, imho, but also studies alot. Really loves the school. In Arts & Science. There are alot of pre-med focused kids (he is not) and he says their workload seems more time consuming, but I'm guessing that's the same at any school. He says that overall is it not a stressful place unlike some of his friends schools. So he's happy about the balance.

Seems very pre professional. What about a kid who has no idea what they want and wants to explore. Might do well at a SLAC, but wants a bigger school. Might major in history or political sciences. Could that still be a fit?

Yes. In A&S, but has taken 8 or 9 different types of course, history, anthro, polisci, math, physics etc, plus classes in accounting and architecture (architecture is rating top 3 i think). Advisor says 'don't worry if it satisfies a requirement, see if it satifies you'. so they definitely encourage exploration at first.

Anonymous wrote:DS has a pretty good social life, imho, but also studies alot. Really loves the school. In Arts & Science. There are alot of pre-med focused kids (he is not) and he says their workload seems more time consuming, but I'm guessing that's the same at any school. He says that overall is it not a stressful place unlike some of his friends schools. So he's happy about the balance.

Seems very pre professional. What about a kid who has no idea what they want and wants to explore. Might do well at a SLAC, but wants a bigger school. Might major in history or political sciences. Could that still be a fit?

DS has a pretty good social life, imho, but also studies alot. Really loves the school. In Arts & Science. There are alot of pre-med focused kids (he is not) and he says their workload seems more time consuming, but I'm guessing that's the same at any school. He says that overall is it not a stressful place unlike some of his friends schools. So he's happy about the balance.

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Anonymous wrote:WashU accepted RD, 1560, 36, 4.41. 9 APs, varsity captain. My understanding is that ED2 at a school like WashU is actually very difficult. You end up getting super high stat kids that didn't get into an Ivy pivot and apply ED2.

Contrary to popular DCUM belief, not all “high stat kids” apply to Ivy as first choice. There are kids out there who, believe it or not, can think independently and research schools that are best fit for them.

Exactly , ours applied to non-HYPSM for ED even though they have a HYPSM in their RD list.

I'd love to hear more about what current students think of WUSTL as DS is considering ED2. Are students happy? Do they have social lives despite the workload?

DC at both engineering and business schools. Taking more than the average number of credits. However, still able to participate in many activities and clubs, including being in executive positions in some. Also likes to jog in adjacent Forest park, catch the Cardinals playing and enjoys the great restaurants nearby (Delmar loop)

Wash U student body is very pre-professional.

DS at the WashU engineering school studying mech and aerospace engineering, so very heavy workload. He is very happy there. There is plenty of time for social life despite a lot of homework. He also works a few hours a week at a lab on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:WashU accepted RD, 1560, 36, 4.41. 9 APs, varsity captain. My understanding is that ED2 at a school like WashU is actually very difficult. You end up getting super high stat kids that didn't get into an Ivy pivot and apply ED2.

Contrary to popular DCUM belief, not all “high stat kids” apply to Ivy as first choice. There are kids out there who, believe it or not, can think independently and research schools that are best fit for them.

Exactly , ours applied to non-HYPSM for ED even though they have a HYPSM in their RD list.

I'd love to hear more about what current students think of WUSTL as DS is considering ED2. Are students happy? Do they have social lives despite the workload?

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Anonymous wrote:WashU accepted RD, 1560, 36, 4.41. 9 APs, varsity captain. My understanding is that ED2 at a school like WashU is actually very difficult. You end up getting super high stat kids that didn't get into an Ivy pivot and apply ED2.

Contrary to popular DCUM belief, not all “high stat kids” apply to Ivy as first choice. There are kids out there who, believe it or not, can think independently and research schools that are best fit for them.

Exactly , ours applied to non-HYPSM for ED even though they have a HYPSM in their RD list.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter's a freshman at WashU. 1490 SAT, 4.6 wgpa from MCPS. Admitted RD to the school of art. She had an interesting and unique portfolio (IMHO), and we visited the school and met the school of art's admissions person. She was nice enough to give us a tour of the art school.

I've heard similar from architecture and engineering. It really depends on the school. Also, most take ACT, not SAT.

Olin Business is apparently the toughest in terms of stats because there's no real way to differentiate beyond that. Our DC seemed set on Olin, but we were advised by several WashU contacts to apply to Arts & Sciences because of fairly unique ECs that make them stand out.

ED2 isn't really a thing. Several said it wouldn't make a real difference. They've probably used up most of ED slots with recruited athletes, art, architecture, QuestBridge Scholars (stellar FGLI URM students), and rural midwest initiative applicants.

WashU is really committed to inclusion and trying really hard not to use demonstrated interest (biased toward privilege). They've seriously upped Pell Grant recipients and strategically built streamlined 3 tier pay structure. They're not desperate for full pay.

Good luck to all. And remember, the whole admissions process is opaque and imperfect. There is no way to game a system that has no rules and no referees.

Our kids shouldn't take any of this personally. It's just where the higher ed industry -- yes, it's a business -- finds itself. Partly by their own design.

If you're on here, your kids will likely be fine in life no matter where they go undergrad because you are an engaged and supportive parent.

Agree. But there are thousands of kids across the country applying.

Anonymous wrote:WashU accepted RD, 1560, 36, 4.41. 9 APs, varsity captain. My understanding is that ED2 at a school like WashU is actually very difficult. You end up getting super high stat kids that didn't get into an Ivy pivot and apply ED2.

Contrary to popular DCUM belief, not all “high stat kids” apply to Ivy as first choice. There are kids out there who, believe it or not, can think independently and research schools that are best fit for them.

WashU accepted RD, 1560, 36, 4.41. 9 APs, varsity captain. My understanding is that ED2 at a school like WashU is actually very difficult. You end up getting super high stat kids that didn't get into an Ivy pivot and apply ED2.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are applying Ed 1 or 2, why would visiting matter at all? You are showing the highest possible level of interest by applying via Ed.

I agree. For RD, sure. But I don’t see it for ED, especially given their very high first year retention rate.

Its because the school now has its ED1 class locked down and thus has addressed many of its own concerns. School can be a bit choosier after having its pick of the ED1 crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did your child w the 1510 decide not to apply?

Naviance showed DC needed a higher SAT to get in and they did not want to take it a third time. At least that’s what it is showing for our specific school.

Higher than a 1510 for Washington University? Isn’t that the average there

College board says it’s between 1490-1570, so 1510 is still on the lower end. For ED2 DC is looking for more of a sure thing

Is ED2 harder than ED1

Usually has a lower acceptance rate at most schools, somewhere between Ed 1 and rd.

Any source there? Very, very few school break down the data that way.

And OP, having visited appears to be a key at Wash U based on what I have seen, thought the school says that is not true.

Vandy did last year, Emory did during an info session.

I can verify that Emory said in their in-person pre-tour info session that chances are better for ED1 than ED2 and for ED2 over RD. Wish I had asked if there's any bump for applying RD Scholarship.