Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 16:23     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a school in GA that I really wish we could look at because the program for my daughter is quite good, but there is no way GA is going to get rid of their ridiculous restrictions in time (she's a junior)

Her current favorite school is in NC (which still has a Dem governor), we live in state for VA, but we also have schools to look at in NJ, PA (already visited one), RI and MA. Have a couple oddball options in IL and now MI (my daughter is really intrigued by that one). There are even a couple programs of interest in Canada, although they are not 4 year programs.


Michigan looking great these days!


Right? The school we are looking at is on the UP, so COLD. But hooray for Michigan
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 15:24     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:There is a school in GA that I really wish we could look at because the program for my daughter is quite good, but there is no way GA is going to get rid of their ridiculous restrictions in time (she's a junior)

Her current favorite school is in NC (which still has a Dem governor), we live in state for VA, but we also have schools to look at in NJ, PA (already visited one), RI and MA. Have a couple oddball options in IL and now MI (my daughter is really intrigued by that one). There are even a couple programs of interest in Canada, although they are not 4 year programs.


Michigan looking great these days!
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 15:23     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:One thing that appears to have happened in 2022 is more out of state college students registered to vote in their school location. The abortion decision emphasized to students that they spend most of 4 years under that state’s laws and jurisdiction so they need to vote there.


DS registered to vote in his red state locale. Many friends with DCs @ Michigan registered to vote there and kicked the GOP from my home state to the curb. Best morning for a long time was waking up to that news.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 15:18     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since girls, on average, perform stronger academically than boys, would the US news ranking be affected by declining female enrolment? Also, would a college be financially hit by a decline of full pay out of state and UMC families with options?


What? No one is saying they aren't sending their daughter to college because of Dobbs. They are not sending to red states with severe restrictions. I'm sure with hundreds and hundreds of viable four year colleges people will just shift, not decline to go.

For poor people in red states living in that state anyway, it probably won't make a difference and they will continue to go to those schools.



I meant the US news ranking of an individual college. The lower the number of applications and average SAT score of the students, the lower the ranking.


Ah got it, that makes sense. I was reading quickly and misunderstood that you meant female college rates would drop.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 14:11     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would not pay for my daughter to attend school in a state where she could be left to die of an infection in an emergency room, nor for my son to go to school where a youthful error could lead to 18 years of child support payments.

But college students are adults and they could theoretically feel differently than I do, in which case they can pay for school themselves.


Just because abortion is legal in a state does not mean that unmarried women will be forced to get abortions. Your son's "youthful error" could lead to 18 years of child support payments if the woman he impregnates CHOOSES to keep the baby.


An 18-yr. Old in college is highly unlikely to choose to have a child or get married before finishing college.


Unlikely maybe. But still possible. Even if 999 out of 1000 college 18 year olds are more likely to choose abortion over keeping the baby, it's only the ONE that OP's son impregnates that matters to OP's son (and OP.)
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 14:03     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
My definition of “Funny things” definitely doesn’t include being forced to carry a rapists baby or dying from a completely treatable infection because R/s believe that that rotting flesh in my womb is a “ baby”
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 14:00     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t sure whether to post this here or the college section but decided to err on the side of caution.

So the midterms proved that gen-z are highly passionate about abortion rights. My question is will kids who have the financial and practical option to do so op not to attend the previously popular schools like Rice, Vanderbilt or Oberlin that are in pro life states?

I heard the argument that kids could just return to their parents state to get abortions if need be. However 18-21 year olds want to spread their wings and be independent. I was close to my parents but I didn’t tell them about sexual encounters that I had or every gynaecological appointment I made. There are boundaries! Also in emergency situations like an ectopic pregnancy or rape or complications in the 2nd or 3rd trimester of a wanted pregnancy, it might not be practical to travel beyond your local hospital. Young women might want to have the peace of mind that they will be covered in whatever college state they choose.

Is the residential system at Rice THAT good that no other college in a pro-choice state equals it?

Can any parents of High school or older kids who are applying to college now or the near future comment on if this is a factor for them at all?


I don’t know OP. I can say that my DS never considered not applying because of Dobbs, and I think it is because he is an immature male with a brain not yet fully developed. I as the parent have already informed him that two of the schools applied and accepted, I was not spending my money. He can attend if he receives a full scholarship, but I am not sending my money to those two states. DS said, “oh, um ok. I didn’t think about that.” He has other choices.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 13:58     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t sure whether to post this here or the college section but decided to err on the side of caution.

So the midterms proved that gen-z are highly passionate about abortion rights. My question is will kids who have the financial and practical option to do so op not to attend the previously popular schools like Rice, Vanderbilt or Oberlin that are in pro life states?

I heard the argument that kids could just return to their parents state to get abortions if need be. However 18-21 year olds want to spread their wings and be independent. I was close to my parents but I didn’t tell them about sexual encounters that I had or every gynaecological appointment I made. There are boundaries! Also in emergency situations like an ectopic pregnancy or rape or complications in the 2nd or 3rd trimester of a wanted pregnancy, it might not be practical to travel beyond your local hospital. Young women might want to have the peace of mind that they will be covered in whatever college state they choose.

Is the residential system at Rice THAT good that no other college in a pro-choice state equals it?

Can any parents of High school or older kids who are applying to college now or the near future comment on if this is a factor for them at all?



I think this is absolutely irrelevant. If my kids were to exclude all states doing funny things, I frankly don't think they could study in any state at all.


Abortion bans are only "funny things" to posters that are willfully ignorant of how many people around them have struggled with reproductive issues. Get a clue. It's a critical issue
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 13:37     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t sure whether to post this here or the college section but decided to err on the side of caution.

So the midterms proved that gen-z are highly passionate about abortion rights. My question is will kids who have the financial and practical option to do so op not to attend the previously popular schools like Rice, Vanderbilt or Oberlin that are in pro life states?

I heard the argument that kids could just return to their parents state to get abortions if need be. However 18-21 year olds want to spread their wings and be independent. I was close to my parents but I didn’t tell them about sexual encounters that I had or every gynaecological appointment I made. There are boundaries! Also in emergency situations like an ectopic pregnancy or rape or complications in the 2nd or 3rd trimester of a wanted pregnancy, it might not be practical to travel beyond your local hospital. Young women might want to have the peace of mind that they will be covered in whatever college state they choose.

Is the residential system at Rice THAT good that no other college in a pro-choice state equals it?

Can any parents of High school or older kids who are applying to college now or the near future comment on if this is a factor for them at all?



I think this is absolutely irrelevant. If my kids were to exclude all states doing funny things, I frankly don't think they could study in any state at all.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 13:33     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
There is a school in GA that I really wish we could look at because the program for my daughter is quite good, but there is no way GA is going to get rid of their ridiculous restrictions in time (she's a junior)

Her current favorite school is in NC (which still has a Dem governor), we live in state for VA, but we also have schools to look at in NJ, PA (already visited one), RI and MA. Have a couple oddball options in IL and now MI (my daughter is really intrigued by that one). There are even a couple programs of interest in Canada, although they are not 4 year programs.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 13:30     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
My DS already cut those schools out because of the gun violence risk.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 13:26     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
So what say you about Virginia, regarding abortion access?



I think VA is going to flip back blue next year on this very issue. The Rs have no mandate here.

They will lose Northern VA forever if they decide to go all in on restrictions.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 12:37     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since girls, on average, perform stronger academically than boys, would the US news ranking be affected by declining female enrolment? Also, would a college be financially hit by a decline of full pay out of state and UMC families with options?


What? No one is saying they aren't sending their daughter to college because of Dobbs. They are not sending to red states with severe restrictions. I'm sure with hundreds and hundreds of viable four year colleges people will just shift, not decline to go.

For poor people in red states living in that state anyway, it probably won't make a difference and they will continue to go to those schools.



I meant the US news ranking of an individual college. The lower the number of applications and average SAT score of the students, the lower the ranking.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 12:07     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would not pay for my daughter to attend school in a state where she could be left to die of an infection in an emergency room, nor for my son to go to school where a youthful error could lead to 18 years of child support payments.

But college students are adults and they could theoretically feel differently than I do, in which case they can pay for school themselves.


Just because abortion is legal in a state does not mean that unmarried women will be forced to get abortions. Your son's "youthful error" could lead to 18 years of child support payments if the woman he impregnates CHOOSES to keep the baby.


An 18-yr. Old in college is highly unlikely to choose to have a child or get married before finishing college.


Hopefully, those 18 year old college students will be smart and sensible enough to take appropriate precautions to not get pregnant.


These issues go well beyond that. These draconian laws erode the healthcare system.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 12:05     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?

So what say you about Virginia, regarding abortion access?