Anonymous
11/10/2022 16:04
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:I think the Dems actively lost that one - and Fetterman is the playbook.
-Play for 5 points in every single county. The dems just fully conceded rural areas and paid the price.
-Mcauliffe was a terrible, boring, sterile, establishment, do-over candidate - nothing there to get excited about or turn anyone on.
-This all let Youngkin get away with being two different things in two different parts of the state - vest wearing soccer dad up here, Trumpy christian nationalist in rural VA.
-Astroturf organizing on school issues, etc. - Dems are WAY behind (and the years of school closures played into it... they are trying to recreate that vibe on the woke issues)
+1 The political press was positively desperate for a successful Republican who wasn’t Trumpy, so they thought, and they basically made him with their drooling coverage. And McAuliffe was a boring known quantity.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 15:11
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Virginia and not familiar with Youngkin or the politics you're talking about but I am curious. Would you mind sharing a couple of details about it?
Is it just Trump politics?
It’s Christian Nationalism politics— the core and soul of current GOP.
Desire to go back/retain a state of things where conservative Christian culture is default and everyone else is, at best, a tolerated guest and, at worst, excluded from society.
Oh yikes! Thank you for filling me in.
DP in NOVA. Yes, and.
Youngkin campaigned on a lot of "school issues" ("CRT," school choice, parent involvement), and at least in NOVA, he seemed to get some support from suburban moms fed up with the schools' responses to Covid and online learning. His campaign also kept Trump from coming to campaign for him, knowing that would hurt him in NOVA. That, and people were just not excited about McAuliffe. Youngkin seemed to capitalize on this image of himself as a harmless sweater-vest-wearing conservative with some distance between himself and Trump, when actually his policies are perfectly in line with GOP culture wars. He set up a tip line for parents to call in complaints about their kids' teachers teaching CRT; he's trying to gut public education; he thinks Confederate monuments are great; he's pro-life; he's pro-guns.
His endorsed-and-campaigned-for candidate in the Fairfax City Mayoral race appears to have lost. I think if Youngkin had been on the ballot yesterday, he wouldn't be our governor. Everything points to his own presidential bid soon, so keep an eye on him.
Advocating school choice is not "trying to gut public education," you twit. And the bolded? Do us a favor and stop lying. Thanks so much.
Anyone who studies this issue for more than the five minutes it takes to read a right-wing think piece realizes that while it may not [always] be the intent, in practice, that's exactly what it does. Look at DCPS - they have no ability to divest themselves of costly infrastructure housing an increasing smaller and higher-needs student population, and it's not as if any extra cash for bussing and classroom supports is going to materialize. Meanwhile, charter schools can and do turn down or kick out special needs students regularly, go years without being held to meaningful progress standards, and drive down teacher quality and retention by relying on Teach for America-type programs and provisional licensure. I am 100% a champion for public school reform but our late-stage capitalism hellscape is not the agent to make it happen.
Thank you for this post! You summarized the critical issues much more succinctly than I would have been able to do.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 15:09
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.
It's not about sending an anonymous mom an apology, it's about sending a message to his base that his (and their) behavior is abhorrent, unacceptable, and incompatible with a civil society.
The voters seem to have done that for him.
I beg to differ. Considering that the likes of Hung Cao and Yesli Vega received even a single vote, the message was not nearly loud enough.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 11:39
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.
He had no problem mocking her in public.
+1
Public disgrace calls for public apology. Just shows how spineless he is.
Spirit of Virginia, right? What a toad.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 11:05
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.
He had no problem mocking her in public.
+1
Public disgrace calls for public apology. Just shows how spineless he is.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 11:00
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
I think the Dems actively lost that one - and Fetterman is the playbook.
-Play for 5 points in every single county. The dems just fully conceded rural areas and paid the price.
-Mcauliffe was a terrible, boring, sterile, establishment, do-over candidate - nothing there to get excited about or turn anyone on.
-This all let Youngkin get away with being two different things in two different parts of the state - vest wearing soccer dad up here, Trumpy christian nationalist in rural VA.
-Astroturf organizing on school issues, etc. - Dems are WAY behind (and the years of school closures played into it... they are trying to recreate that vibe on the woke issues)
-Play for 5 points in every single county. The dems just fully conceded rural areas and paid the price.
-Mcauliffe was a terrible, boring, sterile, establishment, do-over candidate - nothing there to get excited about or turn anyone on.
-This all let Youngkin get away with being two different things in two different parts of the state - vest wearing soccer dad up here, Trumpy christian nationalist in rural VA.
-Astroturf organizing on school issues, etc. - Dems are WAY behind (and the years of school closures played into it... they are trying to recreate that vibe on the woke issues)
Anonymous
11/10/2022 10:49
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
last year was a blip...and our former gov made a HORRIBLE gaffe that never should have happened for someone who should be a savvy campaigner. Embarrassing
Anonymous
11/10/2022 10:40
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Virginia and not familiar with Youngkin or the politics you're talking about but I am curious. Would you mind sharing a couple of details about it?
Is it just Trump politics?
It’s Christian Nationalism politics— the core and soul of current GOP.
Desire to go back/retain a state of things where conservative Christian culture is default and everyone else is, at best, a tolerated guest and, at worst, excluded from society.
Oh yikes! Thank you for filling me in.
DP in NOVA. Yes, and.
Youngkin campaigned on a lot of "school issues" ("CRT," school choice, parent involvement), and at least in NOVA, he seemed to get some support from suburban moms fed up with the schools' responses to Covid and online learning. His campaign also kept Trump from coming to campaign for him, knowing that would hurt him in NOVA. That, and people were just not excited about McAuliffe. Youngkin seemed to capitalize on this image of himself as a harmless sweater-vest-wearing conservative with some distance between himself and Trump, when actually his policies are perfectly in line with GOP culture wars. He set up a tip line for parents to call in complaints about their kids' teachers teaching CRT; he's trying to gut public education; he thinks Confederate monuments are great; he's pro-life; he's pro-guns.
His endorsed-and-campaigned-for candidate in the Fairfax City Mayoral race appears to have lost. I think if Youngkin had been on the ballot yesterday, he wouldn't be our governor. Everything points to his own presidential bid soon, so keep an eye on him.
I think the bolded are quite related. Youngkin was the rare candidate who was elected in 2021 vs 2022 and in 2021 there was still masking, school closures, etc. I think he was aided very nicely by the timing of promising (and delivering) to make sure schools opened (although most were by that point) and stayed that way with no masking. Parents were pretty pushed over the edge by that point.
I also think the prior point of McAuliffe being an awful candidate was pretty spot on as well. Kind of like Christ in FL. People voted for them because they were Dems and they didn't like the opponent but they weren't convincing tons of people to vote who otherwise would not have.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 10:27
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Virginia and not familiar with Youngkin or the politics you're talking about but I am curious. Would you mind sharing a couple of details about it?
Is it just Trump politics?
It’s Christian Nationalism politics— the core and soul of current GOP.
Desire to go back/retain a state of things where conservative Christian culture is default and everyone else is, at best, a tolerated guest and, at worst, excluded from society.
Oh yikes! Thank you for filling me in.
DP in NOVA. Yes, and.
Youngkin campaigned on a lot of "school issues" ("CRT," school choice, parent involvement), and at least in NOVA, he seemed to get some support from suburban moms fed up with the schools' responses to Covid and online learning. His campaign also kept Trump from coming to campaign for him, knowing that would hurt him in NOVA. That, and people were just not excited about McAuliffe. Youngkin seemed to capitalize on this image of himself as a harmless sweater-vest-wearing conservative with some distance between himself and Trump, when actually his policies are perfectly in line with GOP culture wars. He set up a tip line for parents to call in complaints about their kids' teachers teaching CRT; he's trying to gut public education; he thinks Confederate monuments are great; he's pro-life; he's pro-guns.
His endorsed-and-campaigned-for candidate in the Fairfax City Mayoral race appears to have lost. I think if Youngkin had been on the ballot yesterday, he wouldn't be our governor. Everything points to his own presidential bid soon, so keep an eye on him.
Advocating school choice is not "trying to gut public education," you twit. And the bolded? Do us a favor and stop lying. Thanks so much.
Anyone who studies this issue for more than the five minutes it takes to read a right-wing think piece realizes that while it may not [always] be the intent, in practice, that's exactly what it does. Look at DCPS - they have no ability to divest themselves of costly infrastructure housing an increasing smaller and higher-needs student population, and it's not as if any extra cash for bussing and classroom supports is going to materialize. Meanwhile, charter schools can and do turn down or kick out special needs students regularly, go years without being held to meaningful progress standards, and drive down teacher quality and retention by relying on Teach for America-type programs and provisional licensure. I am 100% a champion for public school reform but our late-stage capitalism hellscape is not the agent to make it happen.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 10:16
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.
It's not about sending an anonymous mom an apology, it's about sending a message to his base that his (and their) behavior is abhorrent, unacceptable, and incompatible with a civil society.
The voters seem to have done that for him.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 10:05
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.
He had no problem mocking her in public.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 08:48
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Poor Youngkin. He is so 2021. The darling of the Republicans is solidly Desantis. I predict all hands on deck are falling behind Desantis, his photogenic family, and his ability to go against Trump.
Youngkin’s wishy washy ways and not affirmatively going against Trumpisms are going to hurt him.
I am not a Desantis fan at all. But that’s my take. Youngkin has jumped the shark.
Youngkin’s wishy washy ways and not affirmatively going against Trumpisms are going to hurt him.
I am not a Desantis fan at all. But that’s my take. Youngkin has jumped the shark.
Anonymous
11/10/2022 08:46
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.
It's not about sending an anonymous mom an apology, it's about sending a message to his base that his (and their) behavior is abhorrent, unacceptable, and incompatible with a civil society.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 23:56
Subject: Re:Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
His performance campaigning for Republicans this election cycle doesn’t seem too promising for his political future. So many of the candidates he campaigned for lost - Yesli Vega, Hung Cao, Paul LePage, Tudor Dixon, Heidi Ganahl, Tim Michels. Arizona isn’t decided yet, but it’s not looking good for Kari Lake.
Anonymous
11/09/2022 23:35
Subject: Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I sure hope it’s over. The most recent last straw with Youngkin was when he made jokes about the Pelosi assault. The man flew all over the country campaigning for Republican extremists and doesn’t do any work here. He makes up culture war issues and tries to divide people, just like Trump and DeSantis.
And he sent Nancy Pelosi a note of apology privately rather than apologize to her in public. A real profile in courage right there.
Why on earth shouldn't he apologize to her (or anyone) in private? He doesn't owe *you* an apology.