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Anonymous wrote:Its a sad messy situation for everyone..

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/11/02/parents-say-mcps-teacher-shortages-are-hurting-students-academic-progress/

We are in a neighborhood zoned for Einstein and know a family with a student in the references algebra class. These are well-educated parents so I think they were first like, ok we will try to help at home. But they soon hired a tutor, which not everyone can afford to do. It's different to try to supplement at home in ES vs. HS. MCPS doesn't even have books anymore. I remember my dad helping me with math in high school but he would literally sit down with the book to teach himself.

MCPS is offering FREE tutoring so stop commenting about those who cannot afford it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its a sad messy situation for everyone..

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/11/02/parents-say-mcps-teacher-shortages-are-hurting-students-academic-progress/

We are in a neighborhood zoned for Einstein and know a family with a student in the references algebra class. These are well-educated parents so I think they were first like, ok we will try to help at home. But they soon hired a tutor, which not everyone can afford to do. It's different to try to supplement at home in ES vs. HS. MCPS doesn't even have books anymore. I remember my dad helping me with math in high school but he would literally sit down with the book to teach himself.

Anonymous wrote:Its a sad messy situation for everyone..

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/11/02/parents-say-mcps-teacher-shortages-are-hurting-students-academic-progress/

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Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Churchill parents could attract quality teachers by offering to rent a house or in-law suite at below market for as long as the teacher remained employed at the school. However, they see teachers as beneath them and undeserving of being a full member of the community.

An in-law suite???? You think living in an in-law suite would make a teacher a part of the community? Unreal. THIS is why no one wants to be a teacher. You think living in some student's family home is perfectly fine for a teacher. Like a governess with a straw suitcase and a note of introduction or a maid you're sponsoring. What adult wants to live like that? What if they have a family of their own, are they all supposed to pile into the in-law suite?

YOU are the one who thinks teachers are beneath them. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN IN-LAW SUITE. BECAUSE I AM AN ADULT, WORKING A FULL TIME JOB AND DESERVE A REAL PLACE TO LIVE.

1999-2003 me. I’m the person you are responding to and I’m a teacher. I would have gladly rented a below market in-law suite in Potomac, CC, or Bethesda when I was a newish teacher (career changer) because all I could afford the first 4 years were run down apartments in high crime areas. I grew up poor in high crime inner-city neighborhoods so I made it work until I could afford to move, but an in-law suite in an UMC zip code would have been a step up over moldy drywall, roaches, and repeated car break ins in Takoma Park.

I guess you weren't interested in having a family.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Churchill parents could attract quality teachers by offering to rent a house or in-law suite at below market for as long as the teacher remained employed at the school. However, they see teachers as beneath them and undeserving of being a full member of the community.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Anonymous wrote:Actually in my experience, teachers in the Churchill cluster are grateful to be there. Many know what it is like to deal with students in other clusters who are disruptive or who pull the class down in terms of content. Much more progress is made in a math or history class in a Churchill cluster school than most other schools in the county. I even had a teacher during BTS night say how after being in another middle school for a couple of years what a pleasure it was to teach the students in our school (Hoover).

I know if I were a teacher, my preference would be to be around students whose parents are supportive of their educations. With a very large Asian community in the Churchill part of the county, you are going to find some very strong and dedicated students. Other students are influenced by this hard work and tend to do the same. It's contagious. Being around kids who want to learn is rewarding. Being around kids don't care about education, fight and have attitudes is horrifying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Churchill parents could attract quality teachers by offering to rent a house or in-law suite at below market for as long as the teacher remained employed at the school. However, they see teachers as beneath them and undeserving of being a full member of the community.

An in-law suite???? You think living in an in-law suite would make a teacher a part of the community? Unreal. THIS is why no one wants to be a teacher. You think living in some student's family home is perfectly fine for a teacher. Like a governess with a straw suitcase and a note of introduction or a maid you're sponsoring. What adult wants to live like that? What if they have a family of their own, are they all supposed to pile into the in-law suite?

YOU are the one who thinks teachers are beneath them. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN IN-LAW SUITE. BECAUSE I AM AN ADULT, WORKING A FULL TIME JOB AND DESERVE A REAL PLACE TO LIVE.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Churchill parents could attract quality teachers by offering to rent a house or in-law suite at below market for as long as the teacher remained employed at the school. However, they see teachers as beneath them and undeserving of being a full member of the community.

An in-law suite???? You think living in an in-law suite would make a teacher a part of the community? Unreal. THIS is why no one wants to be a teacher. You think living in some student's family home is perfectly fine for a teacher. Like a governess with a straw suitcase and a note of introduction or a maid you're sponsoring. What adult wants to live like that? What if they have a family of their own, are they all supposed to pile into the in-law suite?

YOU are the one who thinks teachers are beneath them. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN IN-LAW SUITE. BECAUSE I AM AN ADULT, WORKING A FULL TIME JOB AND DESERVE A REAL PLACE TO LIVE.

1999-2003 me. I’m the person you are responding to and I’m a teacher. I would have gladly rented a below market in-law suite in Potomac, CC, or Bethesda when I was a newish teacher (career changer) because all I could afford the first 4 years were run down apartments in high crime areas. I grew up poor in high crime inner-city neighborhoods so I made it work until I could afford to move, but an in-law suite in an UMC zip code would have been a step up over moldy drywall, roaches, and repeated car break ins in Takoma Park.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Churchill parents could attract quality teachers by offering to rent a house or in-law suite at below market for as long as the teacher remained employed at the school. However, they see teachers as beneath them and undeserving of being a full member of the community.

An in-law suite???? You think living in an in-law suite would make a teacher a part of the community? Unreal. THIS is why no one wants to be a teacher. You think living in some student's family home is perfectly fine for a teacher. Like a governess with a straw suitcase and a note of introduction or a maid you're sponsoring. What adult wants to live like that? What if they have a family of their own, are they all supposed to pile into the in-law suite?

YOU are the one who thinks teachers are beneath them. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN IN-LAW SUITE. BECAUSE I AM AN ADULT, WORKING A FULL TIME JOB AND DESERVE A REAL PLACE TO LIVE.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Churchill parents could attract quality teachers by offering to rent a house or in-law suite at below market for as long as the teacher remained employed at the school. However, they see teachers as beneath them and undeserving of being a full member of the community.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And then you have the issue of widening gaps between "good schools" and "mediocre/bad schools."

From the article:

Stacy Ganz Kahn, president of the Winston Churchill High School PTSA, says special education programs are dealing with the brunt of the teacher shortage in MCPS. Offering bonuses in high-need areas and pathways to teacher certification for paraprofessionals could help remedy the situation, she said.

Still, Ganz Kahn says the Potomac school is pretty well-staffed, unlike other schools in the county, because people want to teach there.

I read that quote in the article and thought it was in poor taste. And then just now I looked at the available jobs on the MCPS Careers site, and it turns out it's not true at all. Churchill actually has 6 open teacher positions posted, more than any other HS!

6: Churchill
5: Whitman
4: Blair, Blake, Einstein, Springbrook
3: Gaithersburg, Magruder, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood
2: BCC, Kennedy, Northwood, Paint Branch, Watkins Mill
1: Damascus, Northwest, Walter Johnson
0: Clarksburg, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Wheaton, Wootton

Couple potential takeaways:

Working in W schools might be much less attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because teachers don’t want to deal with DCUM parents.

Working in non-W schools might be much more attractive than DCUM wants to believe. Possibly because there’s better work life balance there. Or because working with those students is more rewarding to teachers who see their career as a vocation.

I think some of the up county schools are attractive because teachers can afford to live in decent neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance. Some are getting cheaper real estate outside MoCo but working in MoCo for the better benefits. A teacher can’t really live near Churchill unless they have a rich spouse or another source of money.