Anonymous
Post 11/02/2022 06:22     Subject: Re:Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Geometry is the most eloquent of math subjects. That’s your biggest chance to fall in love with math. STEM majors and math majors reflect on this! I wouldn’t have skipped it ever!


I think it and physics use a different part of the brain than algebra or calculus. That’s why top students in Wash Dac public schools are able to take it and algebra the same year in middle school. It’s quite different, uses application equations and needs a spatial relations brain to do accurately and quickly.


TJ students taking AP physics have to have taken Calculus BC or be doing it at the same time, suggesting physics uses the same part of the brain.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2022 01:46     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
No you can’t skip geometry. Also you might be interested to know that there are kids with 99% scores many grades up (i.e. 290+ in middle school) In the magnets they move those kids to a path to take calculus in 10th grade.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2022 11:18     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is is possible to request skipping taking geometry for 8th grader (and take the high school 9th grade level math)?
If so what is the requirement? (Map is currently at 99% tile at 7 and 8th grade levels.)


only if you're at one of the wealthier Potomac schools


STOP LYING. There have been several threads about this just this year already. It's not true. Kids can place into higher math classes at many schools across the county, but it's at the discretion of their math coordinator, and some of them, INCLUDING at wealthy schools, are not in favor of acceleration, and do their best to block the kids from "qualifying".
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2022 11:12     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re summer classes through MCPS: to check the box, you can certainly do that. Most students who take summer courses do so as a remedial option to change their bad grade. They're also very short and thus concentrated, and can be hard to follow for someone with no prior experience, and not include the full curriculum others get during the year.

So if you take one to get ahead in a subject that builds on itself, year after year, be careful - you will not get the same instruction as in the full year course, and might run into difficulties in the next year's class.


Can a rising 8th grader register for MCPS's summer (high) school courses including honors geometry? On the summer school course website it says it is for 9-12 graders. Thanks.


If they completed algebra, I think yes.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2022 10:54     Subject: Re:Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DCAA/Math/MMGR.aspx

Maryland Mathematics Graduation Requirements
Enrollment Requirements

A. Students shall enroll in a mathematics class in each year of high school.
COMAR 13A.03.02.03 Enrollment and Credits Requirements
FAQs about mathematics every year of high school enrollment requirement.

Credit Requirements
COMAR 13A.03.02.03 Enrollment and Credits Requirements

B. a student who entered the 9th grade class in the 2020—2021 school year or earlier shall have earned a minimum of:
three credits, including one with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland Comprehensive Assessment for algebra and one with instruction in geometry aligned with the content standards for geometry;

C. students entering the 9th grade class in the 2021—2022 school year shall have earned a minimum of :
four credits, including one with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland Comprehensive Assessment for algebra and one with instruction in geometry aligned with the content standards for geometry;

You must be enrolled in a state approved course for Geometry and earn one full credit. You can't test out of it.


Very helpful! How do we find out if an outside-MCPS course contents is stated approved for Honors Geometry or not? Thanks.


I would start by asking whoever taught the outside class, because they would have had to go through the approval process.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2022 10:50     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re summer classes through MCPS: to check the box, you can certainly do that. Most students who take summer courses do so as a remedial option to change their bad grade. They're also very short and thus concentrated, and can be hard to follow for someone with no prior experience, and not include the full curriculum others get during the year.

So if you take one to get ahead in a subject that builds on itself, year after year, be careful - you will not get the same instruction as in the full year course, and might run into difficulties in the next year's class.


Can a rising 8th grader register for MCPS's summer (high) school courses including honors geometry? On the summer school course website it says it is for 9-12 graders. Thanks.


In the past, the only HS course 8th graders could take before starting HS was health. Not sure if that’s still the case.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2022 09:18     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:Re summer classes through MCPS: to check the box, you can certainly do that. Most students who take summer courses do so as a remedial option to change their bad grade. They're also very short and thus concentrated, and can be hard to follow for someone with no prior experience, and not include the full curriculum others get during the year.

So if you take one to get ahead in a subject that builds on itself, year after year, be careful - you will not get the same instruction as in the full year course, and might run into difficulties in the next year's class.


Can a rising 8th grader register for MCPS's summer (high) school courses including honors geometry? On the summer school course website it says it is for 9-12 graders. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2022 09:03     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
OP’s child is in 8th grade and taking the 8thgrade Geometry now, if I understand her post. No, a student cannot leave geometry class after the 1st quarter and take algebra 2 in HS, unless you have support from your math teacher and the principal.
Talk to your child’s math teacher first.
Or by a book from AOPS and challenge your child at home with questions from their Geometry book. If your child can resolve most of the problem from the book, congratulations to you and your child. Contact TPMS magnet for advise.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2022 17:18     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is is possible to request skipping taking geometry for 8th grader (and take the high school 9th grade level math)?
If so what is the requirement? (Map is currently at 99% tile at 7 and 8th grade levels.)


only if you're at one of the wealthier Potomac schools


Wealthy Potomac parent who never gets out of their bubble can help OP.

(But, no, you'd have to take it over the summer and its really not a good idea given the short time for the class).
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2022 16:24     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:Is is possible to request skipping taking geometry for 8th grader (and take the high school 9th grade level math)?
If so what is the requirement? (Map is currently at 99% tile at 7 and 8th grade levels.)


only if you're at one of the wealthier Potomac schools
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2022 16:16     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
OP, it is possible for your child to skip all of the classes offered at your local public school. Simply sign her up for the GED test.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2022 11:20     Subject: Re:Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Geometry is the most eloquent of math subjects. That’s your biggest chance to fall in love with math. STEM majors and math majors reflect on this! I wouldn’t have skipped it ever!


Really? Most of the math people I know, myself included, loathed geometry. I adored algebra, trig, calc, but geometry? Barf.

That said, I still don’t think it’s wise to skip it.


No.

And trig is part of geometry. In fact most of upper level geometry you’d cover after elementary school.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2022 11:17     Subject: Re:Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:Geometry is the most eloquent of math subjects. That’s your biggest chance to fall in love with math. STEM majors and math majors reflect on this! I wouldn’t have skipped it ever!


I think it and physics use a different part of the brain than algebra or calculus. That’s why top students in Wash Dac public schools are able to take it and algebra the same year in middle school. It’s quite different, uses application equations and needs a spatial relations brain to do accurately and quickly.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2022 11:15     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
Anonymous wrote:Geometry is on the SAT and the GRE. It also teaches a different kind of thinking than algebra. Skipping it is a bad idea. Thinking you are too smart for it is a perfect example of not knowing what you don't know.


You also need it for physics in HS
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2022 15:54     Subject: Is it possible to skip taking geometry for 8th grader?
OP, they will send out a notice to do math classes over the summer prior to the summer or you can do a class at some of the privates. Its very hard to master everything in 6 weeks so I wouldn't recommend it. We have done summer private classes as prep and it wasn't enough for just 6 weeks for full mastery.